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Parent Charged Soon After Minors Snuck Beer Into A Celebration, Njsa 2c:33-17b

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Parent Charged Soon After Minors Snuck Beer Into A Celebration, Njsa 2c:33-17b

Postby wapi28 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 9:52 am

My query requires criminal law for the state of: New Jersey
My daughter had a party in our home the other night. I was property but stayed in my area most of the evening. I had bought lots of food and drinks for the small ones (five 12-packs of Pepsi, bottles of Gatorade and water, and so on). I also designed meatball and sausage sandwiches and had distinct types of "junk food" Apparently some little ones had snuck in beer, I was completely unaware. Most of the little ones did not drink at all but some did and the cans have been place with my standard recycleables. A person named the police and I was arrested in violation of NJS 2C:33-17B, a disorderly persons offence. Like numerous, we have been by means of a few really tough years financially and can't afford an lawyer or what ever fine could be imposed. I want assist in how to represent myself, and require to know if this is the sort of problem that can be pleaded down. Thank You!
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Parent Charged Soon After Minors Snuck Beer Into A Party, Njsa 2c:33-17b

Postby slaine » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:47 pm

Whilst the quantity of officers present does seem like a bit of overkill, Cyjeff is eventually correct - as the parent, it is one hundred% incumbent upon you to be conscious of what minors in your property are up to. I do really feel the entry by the officers was type of hinky, but as Cyjeff notes, that is something that you want to bring up with your lawyer. The truth that you had been not precisely present at the celebration tends to make factors hard for you - it's tough to maintain an eye on products when you are in your area.
Comprehend, you Want an lawyer. This is a fairly severe situation, and it can have other consequences for you down the line if you come about to be convicted - and if you try to represent yourself, I am sorry, but you are going to fairly considerably assure that you are going to be convicted. You say you happen to be not eligible for Legal Support, but you might appropriately be eligible for a Public Defender. If you are not, you need to have to have to seek the advice of with nearby counsel at the quite least. 1st spend a check out to is generally entirely cost-free.
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Parent Charged After Minors Snuck Alcohol Into An Occasion, Njsa 2c:33-17b

Postby joachim » Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:42 am

I guess I did not make that part clear, sorry. When I pointed out above "wisked me away so quickly. I did not have time and energy to in fact method what was happening. They had me out in law enforcement auto of a second soon after they emerged inside the home."
They processed the youngsters Following they'd taken me away. They had me out of my house a few second after they got in. They did not permit me to grab my glasses, or a jumper, my tips, or even my identification!
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Parent Charged After Minors Snuck Beer Right Into A Party, Njsa 2c:33-17b

Postby achilleas » Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:38 pm

Thank you for the answer.
Taking into consideration it may possibly have only been a tiny amount of beer earned and most hadn't drank any alcohol (I still do not know who did), I can only think those who did consume place it when I would emerge.
I walked around about every single 20 minutesroughly and also at the moment walked about the surface of your house to make positive no youngsters had been outdoors. This is a modest apartment upstairs in a two-household residence (the downstairs neighbors were away) and my bedroom is right in sight of the places the youngsters had been in.
When I explained above, that is a condo. The factor you is capable to see is 15 measures in an extended hall, if you enter my entrance. They'd ahead up the stairs (there is no door at the leading of the stairs) and turn the component before discovering the lone beer can on the dining space floor (or what ever else). There had been NO "drunken teenagers" any exactly where... Not merely 1. Every kid that drove there was allowed to drive themselves house, as I said.
There have been about ten youngsters outside saying very good-night to a single one more when the police arrived in impact (they really closed the street prior to my property!). They made those youngsters come inside with each other.
The bags have been in a space behind a closed door on the other side of the apartment.
They did not announce themselves or ask for entry, they just came in and up the stairs.
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Postby jeric100 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:18 am

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Postby Redmund » Sun Jan 12, 2014 8:02 pm

Finally, you are accountable for what goes on in your residence... Particularly when kids are participating.
How would you NOT comprehend there clearly was alcohol in the property? Just how a lot of occasions did you sail the celebration? Or are you some of these "awesome" parents in any way that did not come downstairs and are at present being imprisoned?
The top door was open... where was this 1 alcohol are you in a position to claim they noticed? Was it in plain view of the major door? What about drunken teens... Some of THEM in plain web site of the doorway?
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Postby MacEwen » Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:26 am

So, wait... you walked the entire apartment every 20 minutes yet the police had time to fill out complete paperwork on every party goer without your knowledge?
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Postby Buckey » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:48 am

Modify: More information... Ten officials simply arrived to my home, they stated they might since the entrance was open... Accurate? They made me released my smoke in my house. While cuffing me, I politely informed them I'd hurt my neck and was on handicap, he explained "fine we will use two sets". That NEVERTHELESS murdered my neck to the stage I am afraid there is more harm. They got all my jewelry and my flip flops and made me stay barefoot in a dirty prison cell for hours being unsure of where my very own kids were or that which was happening at my home. They captured a few bags of recyclables I'd been gathering within an empty space and demand it absolutely was all in the celebration.
I had been captured and they got all my info although not fingerprinted... does which means that something?
The children which were below gave their names, addresses and telephone numbers. All who went there have been permitted to get themselves home. There have been no assessments directed at one to discover when they had really eaten any alcohol. I have been informed every child can get a summons to surface in the email. How on the planet may they show who was and who was not drinking?
There clearly was one beer can on the ground... There have been several pepsi drinks, Gatorade bottles, water bottles, and a pitcher of iced-tea obviously in website.
We'd no notice of these entering the home the official in control stated "whoa you guys did an excellent task of clearing up!" (with plenty of sarcasm). May they do this with just one can of alcohol everywhere to be viewed? And may they truly claim all of the bags of cans and containers were from that evening? Using the quantity of issues within the recycling bags, just how can they show what was from that evening and what was not?
Finally (sorry for the concerns!) before law enforcement came in the home, I was came out-of my space and was likely to tell everybody to begin making and call it a night. While I was in the hall, I inadvertently knocked right into a child and he slipped the container of water he was keeping. I washed it up with paper towels but it was still-damp to the wood floor. The official in control believed to me "simply appear! There is beer poured throughout your ground!" I informed him it was water and described what had just occurred, but he kept shouting at me that it was beer. I advised him to smell it and he stated he did not need certainly to, he "understood alcohol when he noticed it".
I've never experienced any type of difficulty and am so extremely consumed with stress about that. I am hoping a number of you are able to assist...
Thank you.
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Postby Ebenezeer » Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:36 pm

Then you should ask your attorney about the legality of their entry into the home.
I will say, however, that if even ONE of the teenagers outside smelled of alcohol or admitted that there was alcohol up there, you have a much more difficult row to hoe.
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Postby Forrest » Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:42 am

I simply talked to 1 of the children which was outside once the authorities came. They certainly were making (one is definitely an MP in the Military house on leave) and an official told them to "stay-put". The officer then visited all of them and smelled their breathing. They all had been drinking Gatorade (of various tastes), not just one of these claimed they'd something with alcohol inside it at all. Or did anybody claim there have been alcohol based drinks inside.
Once The authorities were all collected and prepared to relocate, they told the children to increase first and they followed directly behind them.
They divided the children by age and had put up a kind of meeting stop in my own home. They completed an application for every child. We have not even heard one child who claimed they were even asked if they'd been consuming.
She also explained after I was removed, they did not search the home but were taking photos of the areas the children were in and the area where I keep my recyclables. They permitted children who needed seriously to, to make use of the toilet, but did not permit them to secure the doorway while they were inside.
A few of the older children were overheard expressing "this really is WAY overkill" and items to that affect.
At-one stage throughout the night, a lot of them were doing offers in the show Moment To Win It (we love that show!). Among the activities entails placing table tennis balls on top of pop or water-bottles and observing just how many times they are able to return and forth with no balls dropping. Evidently law enforcement thought the children were enjoying "beer-pong" and got pictures of the balls in a large glass dish.
I was also simply informed they got photos of OUR table region where all my own documents are.
Anything truly does not experience the following. Does anybody scanning this accept me? I'm-not certain since I've never experienced a scenario like this before, but does some of this sound right and on occasion even appropriate?
And...last issue, I guarantee! Did they need to handcuff me the way in which they did after I told them my right shoulder was hurt and I can not fold it backwards (not just due to the suffering but about the physician and physical therapist's requests). I genuinely believe that undid all of the progress I'd been producing at Rehabilitation
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