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Should the California case that grants illegals in-state tuition rates be overturned by the Supreme Court?

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Should the California case that grants illegals in-state tuition rates be overturned by the Supreme Court?

Postby napayshni65 » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:41 pm

Scalia, Kennedy, Roberts, Alito and Thomas are going to have a field day on this one!




The California Supreme Court weighed in Monday on the politically charged immigration fray when it ruled that illegal immigrants are entitled to the same tuition breaks offered to in-state high school students to attend public colleges and universities.

While the ruling applies only to California, the case was closely watched nationally because nine other states, including New York and Texas, have similar laws.

Republican congressmen Lamar S. Smith of Texas and Steve King of Iowa filed a so-called friends of the court brief urging that illegal immigrants be denied the reduced rate.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40201035/ns/us_news-life/
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Should the California case that grants illegals in-state tuition rates be overturned by the Supreme Court?

Postby bothan » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:42 pm

Absolutely, yes.
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Postby max » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:52 pm

First, the Supreme Court did not do anything except say that the law enacted in California (and SEVERAL other states) does not conflict with federal law.

Second, your statement of the law is incorrect. The law provides that anybody who has attended a California high school for three years can pay in-state tuition. This law applies equally to legal and illegal residents of the United States including those resident in any State in the union. This is particularly important for people under 18, whose legal residence is that of their parents. They can still come to California for three years of high school and pay in state tuition. Get your facts straight before starting a discussion.
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Should the California case that grants illegals in-state tuition rates be overturned by the Supreme Court?

Postby hewlett » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:54 pm

LOL at poster Mark:
Plyer v. Doe deals with 2ndary schools NOT colleges or universities.
It was decided that way because they were "kids"
Sorry but 18 year olds are adults in every state in the union



Alex:
If the state does something the federal government doesn't like then they can make the funds "conditional" on their compliance.

As far as it being a state issue, please remember that the illegal is "illegal" because he is here in violation of federal immigration law so the state by helping him go to college is aiding and abetting federal law.
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Should the California case that grants illegals in-state tuition rates be overturned by the Supreme Court?

Postby scirwode » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:01 am

i doubt it. based on plyler vs doe(1982). illegal immigrants have 14 amendment rights and are "under the jurisdiction of the US" and therefor have the right to education K-12. it also declared it unconstitutional to discriminate against children in regards to education based on immigration status. since higher education has ALWAYS been competitive then why should this not be extended?
if they pay for their college, live in the state of the college they attend, and can prove they pay taxes then why shouldn't they get it?

financial aid is another story
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Should the California case that grants illegals in-state tuition rates be overturned by the Supreme Court?

Postby broehain61 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:06 am

I would imagine not, as there is absolutely no provision in the constitution that gives the federal government in any capacity the right to determine how an individual state appropriates its own public resources.
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Postby marmion » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:11 am

Yes, since Federal law makes it illegal to enter the country without permission from the Federal government.
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Postby bardoul » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:22 am

Absolutely YES! In fact illegals should not be allowed to go to college. Send them home and tell them they are welcome to come here, but to come here THE LEGAL WAY. Then they should be treated like everyone else.
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Postby hob97 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:28 am

They are here illegally - period.
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Postby aldric13 » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:33 am

They are here illegally - period.
No, it's states rights, Timmy.
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