What Do You Think Of The Mandatory Spay/neuter Law, Assemlby Bill 1634, In California?

[curran]

Santa Cruz, CA. was so profitable making use of its mandatory spay/neuter law that currently the federal government in Colorado. desires to go the law for the entire state to be in a position to lessen animal deaths.

[lothair]

It seems like advisable at first glance. Who does not want to decrease steadily the quantity of pets euthanized in shelters? Nevertheless, if this were utilized globally, it generally would develop the only true accessible animals as time goes by   as breeders all-natural kinds are exempt. It'd reduce steadily the quantity of pets in shelters in the quick-run, but consider about as time goes by? This may possibly successfully function as the end-of the mutt. Lots of men and women do not need to have or can not afford a pure-bred puppy or pet.   Furthermore, administration is just a challenge, just like a number of regulations. I am a accountable dog owner, but most are not. This could don't have any effect on folks who determine to disregard the legislation. Furthermore, are they likely to really verify people's animals? It appears as even though lots of paperwork that may possibly turn into a wreck.   Many shelters at the moment require the animals men and women follow be spayed or neutered. Mine does. Truly, we're required to obtain the company at the full time of ownership then we get a document to make use of at our vet.   I consider voluntary spaying / neutering would be a greater concept. # # # What Do You Feel Of The Mandatory Spay / neuter Law to be encouraged by incentives, Assemlby Expenditures 1634, In California?

[Wacuman]

AB1634 Gosh don't get me began on this flawed piece of anti-pet legislation. This is a Negative bill for dogs, their owners, and was introduced and pushed by the animal rights extremists. Sadly, to the average Joe, it sounds very good, but the average Joe doesn't comprehend what or who is behind it, and what their ultimate goal is(to End pet ownership, period).   Also, Santa Cruz's MSN law was NOT successful. Euthanasias did not decrease, specially when compared to other California shelters, and expenditures have doubled. The statistics that the animal rights radicals presented cannot be verified, nonetheless, the NAIA Trust site has actual statistics that were offered by California shelters, including Santa Cruz. NAIA is an animal welfare group, but they are not a bunch of radical extremists, like PETA and the HSUS.   Luckily, this bill was pulled from committee nowadays, so for the time getting, it is dead. operating_dogz 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please confirm your account to send a message.

[Nehemiah]

I have real concerns about the long term. It sounds like a good idea on the surface. Who doesn't want to reduce the number of animals euthanized in shelters? However, if this were adopted universally, it essentially would make the only available pets in the future  pure breeds as breeders are exempt. It would reduce the number of animals in shelters in the short run, but what about in the future? This could effectively be the end of the mutt. Many people don't want or can't afford a pure bred dog or cat.   Also, enforcement is a problem, as with many laws. I am a responsible pet owner, but many are not. This would have no affect on people who choose to ignore the law. Also, are they going to physically check people's pets? It seems like a lot of bureaucracy that could become a mess.   Many shelters already require that the pets people adopt be spayed or neutered. Ours does. In fact, we are required to pay for the service at the time of adoption then we get a certificate to use at our vet.   I think incentives to encourage voluntary spaying/neutering would be a better idea. BarbieM 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[Jacob]

AgentOrange said: 1 pseudotsuga, regarding your answer "It depends on the implementation.":I believe it will be more difficult to enforce for cats since they are allowed to roam. Here in Arizona there is no law against cats being allowed to run wild. Animal control won't pick them up so the poor animals continue to reproduce. The apartment and condo complexes are full of cats. I wonder what would happen if such a spay/neuter law was passed in Arizona if animal control officers would finally get them off the streets. 78 months ago

[Degataga]

Most people already are responsible pet owners that spay and neuter their pets.  The horrible problem of overcrowded shelters and unwanted animals is caused by just a handful of people.  These people don't care about the animals, and they don't care about the burden they place upon the rest of society, costing millions of dollars in animal control services.  They aren't going to care what some new law says.  They operate in rural locations, for the most part, where law enforcement can't readily control them.   If this new law is enacted, will the agencies responsible for enforcement go after these few people who are ruining things for the rest of us?  Or will they just harass the easy targets: people who are trying to be responsible dog owners, or breeders, and have somehow fallen short of the requirements in spite of their best efforts.  The AKC has issued alarmist statements of how this bill will punish responsible breeders and not solve the problem.  For example, they say that the demand for pets will simply force importation of pets from mexico, where conditions will be even worse.  I don't believe all the projections of the AKC, necessarily, but they would be problems to watch out for.    I'm sure there could be a better bill, although I don't know specifically what it would say.  The problem is just a few irresponsible people who are responsible for litter after litter from their unaltered animals.  Perhaps a bill could be introduced that requires the forced sterilization of these stupid people?

[Beornet]

Gosh don't get me started on this flawed piece of anti-pet legislation. This is a BAD bill for dogs, their owners, and was introduced and pushed by the animal rights extremists. Unfortunately, to the average Joe, it sounds good, but the average Joe doesn't understand what or who is behind it, and what their ultimate goal is(to END pet ownership, period).   Also, Santa Cruz's MSN law was NOT successful. Euthanasias did not decrease, especially when compared to other California shelters, and expenses have doubled. The statistics that the animal rights radicals presented cannot be verified, however, the NAIA Trust site has actual statistics that were provided by California shelters, including Santa Cruz. NAIA is an animal welfare group, but they are not a bunch of radical extremists, like PETA and the HSUS.   Fortunately, this bill was pulled from committee today, so for the time being, it is dead.

[divakar]

It depends on the implementation. Most people already are responsible pet owners that spay and neuter their pets.  The horrible problem of overcrowded shelters and unwanted animals is caused by just a handful of people.  These people don't care about the animals, and they don't care about the burden they place upon the rest of society, costing millions of dollars in animal control services.  They aren't going to care what some new law says.  They operate in rural locations, for the most part, where law enforcement can't readily control them.   If this new law is enacted, will the agencies responsible for enforcement go after these few people who are ruining things for the rest of us?  Or will they just harass the easy targets: people who are trying to be responsible dog owners, or breeders, and have somehow fallen short of the requirements in spite of their best efforts.  The AKC has issued alarmist statements of how this bill will punish responsible breeders and not solve the problem.  For example, they say that the demand for pets will simply force importation of pets from mexico, where conditions will be even worse.  I don't believe all the projections of the AKC, necessarily, but they would be problems to watch out for.    I'm sure there could be a better bill, although I don't know specifically what it would say.  The problem is just a few irresponsible people who are responsible for litter after litter from their unaltered animals.  Perhaps a bill could be introduced that requires the forced sterilization of these stupid people? Sources: opinion bannned 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[Atmore]

A good idea stretched to absurdity. When I first read about it my reaction was:  If they spay and neuter all dogs and cats in California, they won't have any dogs and cats there in a few years.   Then I read further:  There is a proposed exemption for licensed pet breeders.   The picture became clear real fast. The state will license and tax professional pet breeders so that the supply of dogs and cats will be limited.  Dogs and cats will become rare commodities which only the well to do will be able to afford.   Then I figured out that this will create a huge demand for doga and cats in California which will be met by pet smuggling rings sneaking in at night through the Nevada desert.   California will respond by criminalizing pet smuggling and demand federal intervention to stop this grave threat. Sen. Boxer will blame the current animal smuggling crisis on Rush Limbaugh and demand that the Fairness Doctrine be reinstituted immediately.  Speaker Pelosi will blame it all President Bush's short-sighrted, warmongering in Iraq. Senator Reid will invest heavily in a chain of pet breeding facilities near the California border.             Sources: A life with furry critters.   Snow_Leopard's Recommendations Dogwatching Amazon List Price: $13.00 Used from: $0.01 Average Customer Rating: 4.0 out of 5(based on 8 reviews) Catwatching Amazon List Price: $13.00 Used from: $0.01 Average Customer Rating: 4.5 out of 5(based on 19 reviews) Snow_Leopard 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[Caly]

When I first read about it my reaction was:  If they spay and neuter all dogs and cats in California, they won't have any dogs and cats there in a few years.   Then I read further:  There is a proposed exemption for licensed pet breeders.   The picture became clear real fast. The state will license and tax professional pet breeders so that the supply of dogs and cats will be limited.  Dogs and cats will become rare commodities which only the well to do will be able to afford.   Then I figured out that this will create a huge demand for doga and cats in California which will be met by pet smuggling rings sneaking in at night through the Nevada desert.   California will respond by criminalizing pet smuggling and demand federal intervention to stop this grave threat. Sen. Boxer will blame the current animal smuggling crisis on Rush Limbaugh and demand that the Fairness Doctrine be reinstituted immediately.  Speaker Pelosi will blame it all President Bush's short-sighrted, warmongering in Iraq. Senator Reid will invest heavily in a chain of pet breeding facilities near the California border.