How is this jail sentencing accurate? [5 stars for good answer!]?

How is this jail sentencing accurate? [5 stars for good answer!]?

Postby rolfe16 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:49 pm

after you read the situation, also please answer me this too--

Do you think he will get out within at most 5 years?

im not a lawyer, and i just want a better understand on if this guy [deandre washington] did not have a weapon, why is it okay for him to be sentenced for 30+ years.

here is the story:

MUSKOGEE — A Tulsa gang member and a convicted drug dealer have been charged in a murder-for-hire scheme to kill a Muskogee police officer.

Ronald Keith Irving, 35, of Muskogee and Deandre L. Washington, 22, of Tulsa, also known as "Monster," were charged by the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of Oklahoma on Thursday.

They are charged with "tampering with a witness, victim or informant" by plotting to kill Muskogee Police Lt. Brian Stark.

The officer is a witness in a federal drug case against Irving, who is in the Muskogee County Jail.

Washington, whom authorities said is a known gang member, was supposed to receive $50,000 to kill Stark at his Muskogee home, records allege.

U.S. Attorney Sheldon Sperling said Washington was the passenger in a car traveling to Muskogee on Wednesday to carry out the plan.

The FBI had been tipped off about the plan, and Oklahoma Highway Patrol troopers arrested Washington about 8:30 p.m. as the vehicle crossed a Muskogee Turnpike bridge east of U.S. 69.

Sperling said the troopers had stopped traffic to ensure that they were able to pull over the vehicle and make the arrest safely.

An FBI affidavit accompanying the complaint contains comments recorded Monday in which a man agrees to carry out the killing:

"Can we do it before Thursday?" asks the man, whom prosecutors allege is Washington. "Do you know how to find him? I won't wound him. I will shoot him in the face.

"I will kill (Irving) if I don't get the money. It will be splat splat. We'll ride down there and boom boom. We will hit him at his house."

Stark and his family were not home at the time. Sperling said they were at a protected location.

Authorities believe that Washington was careful enough not to have yet been in possession of a weapon while on his way to Muskogee.

But Sperling said something else was chilling about his appearance when he was arrested.

"He was wearing surgical gloves," the prosecutor said.

The affidavit includes a note Irving is alleged to have written while in the Muskogee County Jail.

The note, which asked for the killing, was given to an inmate who became an informant, authorities said.

If convicted, Irving and Washington could receive as much as 30 years in prison and be fined $250,000.
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Postby nann » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:50 pm

Imagine you were a mob boss who gave the order to kill someone. They said they were going to go kill them with a gun. Then they ended up strangling them instead. Does it matter?

The point is the letter requesting the hit shows an attempt and the intent to commit the crime. This is especially strong in combination with the person lurking around the area, wearing gloves, after they agreed to do the hit. The mere fact that he did not have a gun on him when he was caught does not mean he could not have (1) gotten a gun, (2) ditched the gun, or (3) kill the person in another manner.

In this case the prosecution will try to show that this evidence shows, beyond a reasonable doubt, that he attempted to tamper with evidence. Considering this is not actually a successful crime but an attempt at a crime it truly is unlikely he will get 30 years. To give you a better answer I'd need to research the former cases and leniency of the Muskogee Trial Courts (or wherever he's being tried). In some states a defense to an attempt crime is that you were not stopped by the police from doing your crime, but instead stopped because you decided you were not going to commit this crime anymore. If that is not an available defense he'll likely get the can for a little while.

5 years sounds like a slightly harsh judgment for these facts, however some judges are very prosecution friendly.
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Postby jolie » Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:52 pm

Known gangsters,drugs,hit men,yes lock them up for good.No they won't get out in 5 hopefully. If Linda Carty can be on death row for a crime she did not commit,then the above is very fair.............
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Postby newyddilyn60 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:16 pm

Because he was absolutely planning to murder a cop to prevent him from testifying at the federal trial. Witness killing has to be kept under VERY tight control. or our whole system falls apart. So what if he didn't have a weapon on him at that moment, you know he was going to kill the man for money. I think he'll get more than five years.
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Postby macquaid35 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:17 pm

simple he went with intent to kill if he wasn't caught , what would you say if he was for hire to kill your family member sorry but as they say if you can't do the time dont do the crime
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Postby victorio83 » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:23 pm

It doesn't need to be accurate, just means the judge will be paid off by the US Government like every other case that includes High Priority Targets in Crime Families. If the proper Code & Regulations are followed he will not be convicted, as no crime was committed, he was not armed, and the only evidence pointing towards him being involved is Verbal.
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Postby josephus » Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:26 pm

my close buddy he got tangled up in a drug ring the biggest one in the history of Kentucky and it was spread thru several states and even mexico he was told he will get no lower than 25 years and a fine of 500,000 at the end of court witch took almost a year and a half he only got 6 years and no fine he gets out 2015 he was charged with conspiracy to distribute 500kilograms of cocaine or sumthing like that and alot of other charges and he has been in jail alot of times before for possession of weed and once before for another drug ring connection so they wont get much i hope just pray for them and sorry for my spelling
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