Law-Forums.org

[stanciyf]

Its hard to identify what happiness is when you know nothing but oppression. So i guess your wrong.

[gilleabart]

First, freedom and liberty are NOT right wing or fascist values. Your contention in that regard is less than moronic.

And not all of Europe is to the left of the United States in terms of social programs. Spain, Italy, Romania, Portugal, and Greece are WAY down the list in those key respects. Yup. And we know what kind of "prosperity" they're enjoying!

No state in Europe and surely not the United States minimizes property rights, or promotes what you ignorantly call "atheism". Like a lot of other terminology you have horribly confused, it seems to be freedom of/from religion that your diatribe fallaciously attacks.

About five countries in Europe have effectively banned handguns. Some other types of firearms are awkward or clumsy to purchase in others. Switzerland and Finland have less firearms restrictions, generally, than the United States.

Health care standards in most of Europe are FAR higher than in the United States.

Try researching somewhere other than on slimy right wing neo-Nazi websites and FOX.

You haven't learned much, but maybe there is still hope.

Short answer: No, Europe isn't "proof" of any of your specious/fraudulent "points", nor does much you espouse have anything to do with reality.

One interesting approach that European experience does verify is that there are LOTS of ways in which democracy can be developed and administered.

[iden]

No. Your premises are hog wash. Your "facts" are lies.

And you manner is that of a pure troll, and insulting as well.

Europe is not a monolith.

More germane: much of what Europe is, especially northwestern Europe, is due to right wing politics that backfired horribly. Since you don't seem capable of valid, scholarly research, explanation would be pointless, but just as a single example, Europe is very crowded, and manages, overall, to be in many important ways, both freer and more secure than whatever it is fools like you seem to admire.

Read some books written by sane people. IF you can.

[curadhan74]

Fascist you say?...you need to compare Fascist country's of the past...defiantly not the GOP but does sound like the extreme left(not the left,the extreme left groups).
you said...yet they are happier, healthier and better educated..where are you getting this information?riots in the streets,no jobs,food lines,bad health-care(they come to the U.S for most major treatments..look it up)....if that's happy in europe i don't want it thank you.

[akule76]

Fascist you say?...you need to compare Fascist country's of the past...defiantly not the GOP but does sound like the extreme left(not the left,the extreme left groups).
you said...yet they are happier, healthier and better educated..where are you getting this information?riots in the streets,no jobs,food lines,bad health-care(they come to the U.S for most major treatments..look it up)....if that's happy in europe i don't want it thank you.

Private property rights, they do have. As much as in the USA. (When the government wants to expropriate in the USA, they can do it).
For the rest, it isn't opression at all. They are free. The government provides a certain amount of "checks and balances" against big companies

[galvin]

The problem conservatives here have is that they have somehow imagined that the only threat to freedom comes from government and that the existence of government cannot provide freedom. Both precepts are demonstrably false.

[iker]

No.

False analysis. Misinformation/disinformation sans logic or facts.

[elkanah1]

Good luck with Ingsoc, tell Winston Smith that I said hi!

[gillivray5]

Nice trolling.
Almost seems legitimate.

[gobrwy]

No, but if you believe that then Give Obama another term and you will have it.