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So since the federal judge (Bolten) ruled against Arizona, she gets to be impeached for doing her job?

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So since the federal judge (Bolten) ruled against Arizona, she gets to be impeached for doing her job?

Postby bardoul » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:50 pm

I don't think you understand what the concept of statehood is. We are a nation composed of many states united for the greater good. The federalists and anti-federalists debated the power of the federal government for a long period of time.

on one side you had a group not wanting to be under the thumb of another large oppressive government.

the other had faith that the government "of the people" could be fair and just.

so what do we have here now. A huge government that doesn't seem to know the will of the people and a fragmented union on most theological settings has swooped in the stop one of the smaller nations from enforcing laws that are on the books.

what a different world we would live in if dtste law trumped federal law.

should she be impeached? Yes

she essentially used the power of the federal government to halt the wheels of a law that was put in place for the state, by the state.
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So since the federal judge (Bolten) ruled against Arizona, she gets to be impeached for doing her job?

Postby denzell » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:58 pm

["Article III federal judges" (as opposed to judges of some courts with special jurisdictions) serve "during good behavior" (often paraphrased as appointed "for life"). Judges hold their seats until they resign, die, or are removed from office. Although the legal orthodoxy is that judges cannot be removed from office except by impeachment by the House of Representatives followed by conviction by the Senate, several legal scholars, including William Rehnquist, Saikrishna Prakash and Steven D. Smith, have argued that the Good Behaviour Clause may, in theory, permit removal by way of a writ of scire facias filed before a federal court, without resort to impeachment.]

I wouldn't sweat it if I were her.
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So since the federal judge (Bolten) ruled against Arizona, she gets to be impeached for doing her job?

Postby chansomps » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:04 pm

>>And the federal government *is* the final authority in all things?<<

Wow, where do I even start? So, you really think that we all answer to the federal government who is the "final authority"? Really?

I would remind you of our own Declaration of Independence:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — THAT WHENEVER ANY FORM OF GOVERNMENT BECOMES DESTRUCTIVE OF THESE ENDS, IT IS THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR TO ABOLISH IT, AND TO INSTITUTE NEW GOVERNMENT, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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