What do you make of there being lower birth-rates than ever before in the West?

[scirwode]

Do you really think this issue didn't come about because of the no-fault divorce laws that have screwed over thousands, if not millions of men? Do you really think it didn't come about, because the father, the leader of the household, was forced out and replaced by the government?

If you get it in a woman's mind that she has been dealt an injustice, she will destroy paradise, civilization, her children, her family and herself in an attempt to correct it.

[taryn31]

It's not just the West. Some of the countries with the lowest birth rates in the world are Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong (not technically a country, I know) and Taiwan. The highest birthrates tend to be in very poor countries. The most educated and prosperous a country is, the lower the birthrate.

What do you propose we replace no fault divorce laws with? If a person is married, and is unhappy, should they have to answer to someone else why they no longer want to be married? No. Keep the government out of it as much as possible, in my opinion.

[chozai65]

In addition to what has been said above

more children survive past the age of five in the west now, so its no longer neccassery to have 6 kids in the hope at least one of them makes it to adulthood. birthrate alone is not enough data.

if either party in the marriage thinks they have been "dealt an injustice" they wouldn't get a no-fault divorce would they, as they would believe the other party to be at fault. it seems you think men do not make use of this law as well as women

ease in getting divorced might even increase the birthrate, if people are unhappily married they are less likely to want to reproduced wth their spouse if they are able to remarry they may want to have children with the new partner

[taillefer]

Well considering the "western world" is made up of mainly white people and they are the only white people in the world. I make of it that white people are dying out they may even go extinct. I don't see how no fault divorce is bad if you just don't love someone then divorce them. It may not be nice or moralistic but at least they aren't cheating while being married to their partner just because they don't like them. And men cheat more and physically abuse more then women in fact way more then women. So that's why the high divorce rates i have no idea why you think it screws over men, if anything it screws over women.

[delton]

I think it comes from the fact that a) none of us have any money and life is crap and people can barely afford to live let alone provide for offspring, and b) life's short, and these days if a person (women in particular since the body clock doesn't affect men's ability to have children in the same way) wants to do well in life, they aren't out of education until early twenties at the earliest, and then by the time they are established in a career they're nearing 30, if not past 30, and who's to say they've even found someone they want to have children with by that time?! And when you start getting into your thirties, having children becomes a lot more difficult.

But then again I'm not a bitter, sad lonely man...so maybe my perspective is slightly different.

[reid]

Less people is a good thing.

We need to introduce birth control and women's lib to the Africans and Southeast Asians, and Mestizos in South and Central America so they'll stop breeding like cockroaches too.

[aenedleah10]

I think it's partly because kids are becoming more expensive to raise.

[hewlett]

I have no problem with it. The world is overpopulated...

[edmondo93]

Idk

[marq]

Men are no greater victims than the women whose husbands left them for younger women with little to no monetary compensation to her. They are no greater victims than the women who get used and tossed aside by men and left to deal with the consequences of sex alone. This isn't a male vs female issue here. We are ALL victims. And what about the children (like me) who grew up being torn between parents who hated each other and where bent on destroying each other? What about the young women whose mothers were never there to give the solid advice about life and the fact that one day they would grow old or that we are not on the same ground as men sexually (unlike what the feminists have always told us)? What about the young girls forced to raise and support children alone because the feminists advocated for sex-blind laws and no-fault divorce instead of a man's obligation to provide his family with a home to live in and his obligation to support a family? You see, there is a natural order and balance that occurs in the universe. You don't get something for nothing. For every man that has been done wrong, there is a woman who has been done wrong as well. What goes around comes around. The entire universe operates on a Law of Retribution.

About birth rates, when marriage, motherhood and women's domestic roles are devalued in society, no amount of government bonuses can make women bear more children. No, we are not overpopulated. More children survive to adulthood now so we can have less children. But our birth rates are barely at replacement level and immigration is the only thing that sustains us. Besides, most of our population is elderly and we face the constant threat of nuclear warfare, natural disasters, plagues and diseases that can come about in a moment's notice...