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Personal Property Issues With Ex-gf

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Personal Property Issues With Ex-gf

Postby Alger » Tue May 13, 2014 2:28 pm

About a year ago, a girlfriend of mine and I were living together. She left the relationship and moved out of the house in the first week of June, 2008, taking some of her belongings (clothes, pictures, etc). At the time she left I told her she was allowed to take anything she wanted from the home, and she said she did not want to take anything else with her and that anything she left I could throw away. Now, there was a few items purchased for us by her father as gifts to us while we were living together, including a stove, refrigerator, washer dryer, 2 ceiling fans and a small window AC unit. It is now October 2009 and she begins to harass me about wanting the refrigerator back and that she will call the sheriff's department to acompany her to come collect it. Can I deny her any anyone else entrance to my home to collect that item? (My parents own the home in which I am staying, I dont know if that makes a difference). Is there some sort of statute of limitations on when she should have tried to collect anything she left?? What should I tell the sheriffs department if they do arrive with her? -In California
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Postby Fionnbarr » Thu May 15, 2014 11:51 pm

Why not just give her the frig back?  It's possible you misunderstood about allowing you to keep expensive appliances. Or maybe Dad's upset she left them there with you after he paid for it all! Clearly, the appliances were given to his daughter; not to YOU as he would never have given YOU expensive appliances, except for the fact you happen to be living there with daughter.  Dad's likely to show up with the receipts, so why try to keep dad's gifts not intended for you?  I'd skip the whole hassle; if you manage to keep them from the sheriff, no doubt she will sue.  Why go through all that to keep something not yours?  It's just dumb and money-grubbing to do so.  Buying your own is the honest thing to do.
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Postby Kestejoo » Sat May 17, 2014 5:41 am

"And what is your opinion on having them left here since June 2008, 16 months with no communication?" Probably Dad just learned where his gifts remained and is giving her a hard time about it...as we all would when our expensive gifts are foolishly left behind! "It's an inconvenience for me to have to go get new appliance(s) after so long of already having them." Buying our own appliances, etc is always an inconvenience...that's part of life.
You have had the free use of them for over a year...she didn't pay rent...sounds even.
If it's as old as you say, you'll have to be buying another soon anyway, right?  I'd give her the old thing rather than hassle with it.  But I'd agree with Drew in the sense that I'd get a receipt and acknowledgement of the other "gifts" she chooses to leave behind to eliminate further issues.
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Postby Baigh » Sun May 18, 2014 12:04 am

Laymans views:   1. It unlikley cops want to get involved in domestic disputes.
2. I assume its your position that her father gave gifts to you as well and therefore you have a right to said items?     Her remedy is to sue you in court--not to abuse police as collectors or deciders of civil matters.
3. Was this person your invited guest or a tenant --are you sure? You need not allow a guest back in. As to a tenant unless the tenancy was formally ended she might have rights to reenter under a claim of tenant status--but that seems remote over 1 year later.
4. Her stuff (not stuff gifted to you) might be under some sort of bailment and is she wants her hairdryer and and jens back you probably need to return same.  5. Items that are now attached to home such as  ceiling fans, dryers etc probably become part of building by common law  and a tenant or his guest cannot remove them
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Postby Pearson » Mon May 19, 2014 2:38 pm

Thanks for your opinion, this is why I'm here. Also, to clear up any miscommunication, it was verbalized to her that she can take whatever she wanted (specifically appliances i've mentioned before, as well as sofa set, television, dvd's etc) not out of guilt from me because it was my fault she left, but because I was heart broken, at which point she told me I could keep everything and she was just taking some personal items. And what is your opinion on having them left here since June 2008, 16 months with no communication? Should I not be reimbursed for having to keep them here? It's an inconvenience for me to have to go get new appliance(s) after so long of already having them. Thanks again!
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Postby Everhart » Mon May 19, 2014 7:32 pm

Her stay in the residence was not of tenant, but guest. No agreements were made for her to pay rent or any other services to allow her to occupy the home with me.
The appliances listed are the only things left that she had any connection to. Is there any advice on how I can speak to the county sheriffs department if they do arrive? she has contacted me saying she spoke to someone from the sheriffs department and they advised her they can accompany her to my residence... or any references I can look up for this issue specific to california? Thank you very much for your help thus far.
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Postby Wulf » Fri May 23, 2014 6:31 am

Might then it-not function as the dad who must attempt to enter connection with me to get his issues? And think about the truth that its been annually without any contact or conversation about looking to get these specific things back? I have not shifted or transformed my telephone number or something like this. And besides, none of those issues are near to fresh. They're all minute (a lot more like next and next) palm items.
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Postby Apurva » Mon Jun 02, 2014 8:58 am

"Might then it not function as the dad who must attempt to enter connection with me to get his issues?" Once he offered the present, it is HERS, not his.  But what CAN YOU state should you offered somebody numerous devices and she/he simply quit them behind?  without doubt he is not excited. "They're all minute (a lot more like next and next) palm items." why stick for them?  you realize they were not intended for you.  Maintaining them guarantees more difficulty...if that is what you would like. Individually, I would not feel relaxed requiring on maintaining another personis material, second hand or not.
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Postby Rene » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:09 pm

Personally I Would not commit lots of period or work in regards to what sherrifs department may do--chances are they punt of course if they are doing seem you request guarantee that they are many unlikley to possess.... I am still of watch that issues mounted on building are now actually section of building. She's load to show factors--therefore if she promises a refregerator wasn't something special--allow her show it--today I guess Father might appear and state it was gift to her-but to not you. (Honestly I gave my daughter and her buddy a few excellent furniture products before they got married however in hindsight I've no idea how I'd actually show the present was to her AND NEVER to him aswell!!) Today if her state is restricted to her aged jeans and also the fridge the easy answer might be to simply permit her in the future get same-get her out-of you r hair--- -but you will want published launch--along with a come have it isn't a reason to perform amuck around house searching for other things to discussion--honestly I Would transfer refrig to top patio and ditto regarding trousers---
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Postby Aiston » Thu Jun 12, 2014 1:08 pm

On the other hand, you could offer her $40 for it, as a used frig, and put an end to it while keeping the item.  But sometimes it's hard to convince people of the low monetary value of old appliances! 
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