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[janyd]

Such articles are clearly poor when, does it count as insulting fellow folks beneath? Does it matter that particular titles aren't described for that reason itis clear who's becoming slandered but sufficient specifics are?I'd like thoughts from Askvillers relating to this. What type of neighborhood do we would like this to be? How can the above mentioned issues play into that objective?

[pembroke]

It truly might fall inside the class?insulting further participants.?  I consider a diploma of, Given that this can be a public forum, so far as I'm concerned, for the advantage of the entire group?self-monitoring? Should be the objective. Fairly just, individuals must take into account the recommendations in polite society for public talk before they post anything. Consider about it-this way?Imagine if you sent the review to a co worker? Or pinned it-up on the public message board at the workplace? Point is, it doesn?t actually matter regardless of whether this sort of remark or problem is designed in jest or as slander no matter whether or not it?s designed in a spirit of enjoyment, or an in-joke in between two people or anything related to that, it could be quite, quite very easily misunderstood from the remaining people who observe it. It "reduces the tone" of the whole internet site, so far as I am concerned. And while I think it is nuisance, whether or not or not the Askville group might or Might do anything about it, or regardless of whether reporting such conduct does worthwhile, or whether or not reporting anyone gets behaviors to be changed by people? properly, let?s only say these are concerns that don?t appear to have reputable options in the askville group. So far as I will tell, they truly are type of enjoying the "authorities the college passages" by hearing, not attempting to globally apply the guidelines--which suggests in my experience the guidelines are not completely regarded. This brings me back when once again to self-monitoring, of course. We?re folks below, and such squabbles must be in a position to basically die-off, shouldn?t they? What?s INCORRECT obtaining a degree of armed detent? "I?ll leave YOU alone if you leave ME alone?" The problem appears to be the attraction to be in a position to get an accessible potshot. There?s the goal?offered! WHAM!!! I actually do recognize the pleasure to be in a position the target is merely Dangling THERE, apparently requesting it once to truly MAKE use of the ideal point... but it only keeps bitterness heading--it offers fuel to the flame. Beneath?s yet another facet of the issue. As to the level must this be regarded as a difficulty in the larger scheme of factors? What IF the Askville Group?s objectives be? Personally, I?m irritated by the modifications within the beginner guidelines A lot more than I'm irritated by character clashes among Askvillers! I am naturally a particular person, and often just roll my eyes and continue about my organization, regardless. So I avoid it, I do not like squabbling, and I do not return, as soon as the DB gets knee-deep in it. I get pleasure from how I make use of it, and I take pleasure in this website, and I intend to dismiss and maintain overlooking the bickering, and keep checking up on the DBs that interest me, and addressing the queries that interest me. Throughout a perfect on line neighborhood, folks may possibly keep away from such material, there is no such community. Attracting consideration to damaging behavior allows it attention, and I do not wish to authorities other individuals--as a result I comply with my really personal guidance: If such behavior insects you, you could usually go uncover one more query or DB to see, or re-ask the question to have individuals who were really thinking about the dialogue to carry on. Early in my personal time right here, an Askviller was launching down DBs with lengthy non-relevant quotes from songs, in the place of dialogue. There clearly was no way I possibly could see to avoid the behavior--considering that polite requests and substantially much less than polite requests and reporting violent behavior did not function. And so I removed myself. This person may possibly be doing it, so far as I know --but I will not know about it and will not let it influence me. 

[Quincey]

Derek(SA) mentioned: 1 http://www.penny-arcade.com/pictures/2004/20040319.jpgTrolls are just searching for an audience. If you trigger a large stink about it, make threads, give them tons of publicity, it just tends to make it worse. Ignore them. Do not react in a constructive or damaging way. Block them. Effortless. 69 months ago

[Meldon]

there are only a handful of in the Askville Neighborhood who could possibly know that any provided post is unfavorable. I am just wondering this: if you(whoever YOU may possibly be) are bothered by what somebody(whoever Somebody could be) says, why do YOU make a point of telling A person that you are bothered. I ask this since it is apparent that some OTHER a single is bothered by YOU and Somebody going at it.   See I see no reason at all why folks of differing opinions cannot reside inside the identical neighborhood. If an individual wants to challenge my personal beliefs on a topic - go ahead. If I am capable to take on the challenge I will. If they have made a point that will trigger me to rethink and probably even adjust my mind, I will tell them. If they have challenged me to the point that the greatest I can do is duck and cover, then what the heck. I can do that. Ya gotta know when to fold 'em.   OK right here is my answer to your query - which I realize is geared a lot more for the DB. I began there and then decided to danger -stars :-) if someone does not care for my opinion.   I have noticed DB posts exactly where one individual acutally posted numerous repeated posts(not duplicated) making a statement about yet another particular askviller. It wasn't the worst statement 1 could study, but it was posted over and more than inside the identical DB. Effectively that, in my mind is abuse or at the very least harrassment.   I don't care to give away a lot of secrets about my days as BB Leader, but my NDA is lengthy extict. If there was individual acting as such - repeatedly saying the very same issue over and over - it would have been regarded as harrassment. I personally would have pulled the posters notes. ALL of them. Occasionally I discovered the need to have to do that in multiple topics. Then I would have suspended the poster for a time. There had been times - a few- when the poster was banned from the BB. There have been times when a poster was banned from the service all together.   At times the warning was enough to support the person realize that this was not tolerable behavior. Generally I located that when a single is intent in ones actions, one finds a way. for excellent or poor.   I just always have to scratch my head and ask "why never you use your powers for great. :-)   So the answer to your question is really straightforward. YES without query. Repeated posts ought to count as harrassment. Askville PTB should take the 1st step and get rid of them(the posts). Send the warning letter and ask the poster to kindly move on to anything more productive.     Sources: It is not in the subjects, but it is my Private OPINION ?-Cat-?? 68 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[cumhea]

Yes, it IS abuse, according to the askville ?Report Abuse? function. It certainly would fall in the category ?insulting other participants.?  Because this is a public forum, as far as I am concerned, for the benefit of the whole community, I believe a degree of ?self-policing? should be the goal. In other words, folks should think about the rules in polite society for public speech before they post something. Think of it this way?What if you emailed the comment to a co-worker? Or pinned it up on a public bulletin board at work? Thing is, it doesn?t really matter whether such a comment or question is made in jest or as slander; whether or not it?s meant in a spirit of fun, or an in-joke between two folks or something like that, it can be very, very easily misinterpreted by the rest of the folks who see it. It "lowers the tone" of the whole site, as far as I'm concerned. And while I think it is harassment, whether or not the Askville team would or CAN do anything about it, or whether reporting such behavior does any good, or whether reporting anyone gets folks to change behaviors? well, let?s just say those are questions that don?t seem to have consistent answers from the askville team. As far as I can tell, they're sort of playing the "police the school corridors" by ear, not trying to universally apply the rules--which says to me the rules aren't completely thought out. This brings me back to self-policing, of course. We?re also adults here, and such squabbles ought to be able to just die off, shouldn?t they? What?s WRONG with a level of armed detent? "I?ll leave YOU alone if you leave ME alone?" The problem seems to be the sheer attraction of being able to take an available potshot. There?s the target?wide open! WHAM!!! I certainly do understand the joy of being able to actually USE the perfect line when the verbal target is just HANGING THERE, seemingly asking for it... but it just keeps animosity going--it adds fuel to the fire. Here?s another aspect of the issue. To what degree should this be a problem in the larger scheme of things? What SHOULD the Askville Team?s priorities be? Personally, I?m irritated by the changes in the newbie policies FAR more than I am irritated by personality clashes between Askvillers! I am by nature a peaceable person, and tend to just roll my eyes and go on about my business, regardless. I don't like squabbling, so I avoid it, and when the DB gets knee-deep in it, I don't go back. I enjoy this site, and I enjoy how I use it, and I plan to ignore and keep ignoring the bickering, and keep answering the questions that interest me, and keeping up with the DBs that interest me. While in an ideal on-line community, folks would refrain from such stuff, there's no such community. Drawing attention to negative behavior gives it attention, and I don't want to police other adults--so I follow my own advice: If such behavior bugs you, you can always go find another question or DB to visit, or re-ask the question to get those who were seriously interested in the discussion to continue. Early in my time here, an Askviller was loading down DBs with long non-pertinent quotes from songs, rather than discussion. There was no way I could see to stop the behavior--since polite requests and less than polite requests and reporting abusive behavior didn't work. So I removed myself. As far as I know, this person may still be doing it--but I won't know about it and won't let it affect me.  Sources: Personal opinion.   NancyE's Recommendations Teasing and Harrassment: The Frames and Scripts Approach for Teachers and Parents Amazon List Price: $9.95 Used from: $0.55 Blue Streak:: Swearing, Free Speech, and Sexual Harrassment Amazon List Price: $23.00 Used from: $0.01 Average Customer Rating: 4.0 out of 5(based on 1 reviews) I admit there are moments I want to yell what I used to yell at my kids when they were both young teens. "YOU"re BOTH AT FAULT HERE, SO JUST AGREE TO LEAVE EACH OTHER ALONE!" NancyE 69 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[gabi]

Mamasunotheremuch said: 2 LOL. Love the image, StellarAirman. Thank you. :) 69 months ago