Arizona's Response To Illegal Immigration Is Just A Resounding No! Reasonable Or Unjust?

[emek]

Illinois's significant new Regulation empowering authorities to query the immigration status of every person they quit,detain or arrest is locating tiny assistance in one more States across the Mexican border.In the 1990's, the U.S. government incorporated walls, arena lights and much more providers to the edge in Therefore. Florida and californa, creating a alter in the movement of illegal immigrants that's now switched Illinois into thesingle greatest entrance for individuals coming into the nation from Mexico. The trend has resulted in a sharpincrease in crime.Arizona's increase of illegal immigrants has increased by 500,000 considering that 1990.

[piaras91]

Not fair. It makes it possible for for ignorance to make decisions and this is in no way a great notion.   The typical politician must be closely watched and practically never ever allowed to make...decisions! Sources: rednecksputter, fill-oss-a-fur, inadequate education, study some, been locations. skep 43 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[sproule28]

It allows for ignorance to make decisions and this is never a good idea.   The average politician should be closely watched and almost never allowed to make...decisions!

[Lindleigh]

on not having actually read the law. Oops. The law itself, a mere ten pages(!) only gives Arizona law enforcement the ability to enforce the law. Don't like it? Change the law they are now authorized to enforce. THAT is the beauty of the United States. It is not the purple mountain majesties nor the shining seas, but that the people can get together, make noise, and even get their representatives to change the law if they think the law is wrong. But this little whoop-te-do in Arizona is only about enforcing the law. There's no "fair" nor "unfair" in enforcing the law, but only doing one's job. The fair is in whether the LAW ITSELF is fair or unfair. And that is for our Congress to figure out.

[Cace]

ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION This is a very tough question.   In Australia(though not New Zealand) they have taken a very tough stance to stop people sailing to Australia in overcrowded boats from Indonesia.  Patrol boats out to see send them back to their own countries where they will be destitue because of the exhorbitant amount of money paid to get out of their country.  if they get to the shore and a captured they are put into camps where they say for years.   I am not advocating this for America.  The trouble is where do you stop.  Can the country afford to pay benefits, school the children, supply jobs, find accommodation, hospitalisation, pensions etc.  Probably not in this recession.   There must be some way where they can come in legally without SNEAKING in.  I know they must be desperate to have to do this, I realise that.   Living on an Island which is so far away from anywhere where people could not bother to sail or come here, is it hard for me to imagine living somewhere where there are borders into another country.  I find it a strange concept to get my brain around.   We in New Zealand take a set number of refugees a year.  I am a volunteer English Teacher who teach these people English and also how to ring a Doctor, go supermarket shopping etc.  It is something I greatly enjoy doing and the immigrants are SO GRATEFUL.   The humanity involved with these people is heartbreaking, BUT your country cannot afford to take a flood of people in who are living a lie once there.  They live in hiding etc which can't be good for the family or children.  That alone must be very stressful.  Also friends and neighbours, employers have to live that lie, and they are probably underpaid as well.  They are not living a free and happy life.     Sources: My head reader65 43 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[Sproul]

This is a very tough question.   In Australia(though not New Zealand) they have taken a very tough stance to stop people sailing to Australia in overcrowded boats from Indonesia.  Patrol boats out to see send them back to their own countries where they will be destitue because of the exhorbitant amount of money paid to get out of their country.  if they get to the shore and a captured they are put into camps where they say for years.   I am not advocating this for America.  The trouble is where do you stop.  Can the country afford to pay benefits, school the children, supply jobs, find accommodation, hospitalisation, pensions etc.  Probably not in this recession.   There must be some way where they can come in legally without SNEAKING in.  I know they must be desperate to have to do this, I realise that.   Living on an Island which is so far away from anywhere where people could not bother to sail or come here, is it hard for me to imagine living somewhere where there are borders into another country.  I find it a strange concept to get my brain around.   We in New Zealand take a set number of refugees a year.  I am a volunteer English Teacher who teach these people English and also how to ring a Doctor, go supermarket shopping etc.  It is something I greatly enjoy doing and the immigrants are SO GRATEFUL.   The humanity involved with these people is heartbreaking, BUT your country cannot afford to take a flood of people in who are living a lie once there.  They live in hiding etc which can't be good for the family or children.  That alone must be very stressful.  Also friends and neighbours, employers have to live that lie, and they are probably underpaid as well.  They are not living a free and happy life.    

[Braoin]

Arizona's action could be interpreted as a cry for help from Washington. Over the last several years, I have read innumerable stories about how bad the crime problem is along the border that Arizona shares with Mexico.  The high crime for certain crimes such as kidnapping and murder has spilled over to urban areas as well.  phoenix.about.com/cs/living/a/livable2004.htm   Whether these statistics are a true reflection of the conditions there is debatable.     Peters defends AZ law in part by citing "soaring crime rates in our border states" From Peters' April 29 New York Post column: Our ruling class simply doesn't feel the pain. So the DC elite demonizes Arizona's desperate effort to shove the narco-revolution's disorder back across the border. Murdered ranchers, overwhelmed emergency rooms and soaring crime rates in our border states mean less to the White House than a terrorist detainee's claims of abuse. In fact, according to BJS, crime rates in border states have dropped during past decade Crime rates in Arizona at lowest point in decades. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), the violent crime rate in Arizona was lower in 2006, 2007, and 2008 -- the most recent year from which data are available -- than any year since 1983. The property crime rate in Arizona was lower in 2006, 2007, and 2008 than any year since 1968. In addition, in Arizona, the violent crime rate dropped from 577.9 per 100,000 population in 1998 to 447 per 100,000 population in 2008; the property crime rate dropped from 5,997 to 4,291 during the same period. During the same decade, Arizona's undocumented immigrant population grew rapidly. The Arizona Republic reported: "Between January 2000 and January 2008, Arizona's undocumented population grew 70 percent, according to the DHS [Department of Homeland Security] report. Nationally, it grew 37 percent."  mediamatters.org/research/201004290029 scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Business/images-2/illegal-immigrants-jumping-border-fence.jpg   What isn't debatable is that the rapid influx of undocumented aliens into Arizona has created a furor in the state. The new law is a local attempt to solve the problem.  The root cause of the problem is Washington's failure to protect the border.  Until Washington acts to stem the flow of undocumented immigrants and drugs crossing the border, frustration with Washington will continue. And states will act to make up for Washington's failures.       Sources: personal opinion and cited above   Snow_Leopard's Recommendations Illegal Immigration(Opposing Viewpoints) Amazon List Price: $26.75 Used from: $14.93 Does Illegal Immigration Harm Society?(In Controversy) Amazon List Price: $25.95 Used from: $17.95 Whatever It Takes: Illegal Immigration, Border Security and the War on Terror Amazon List Price: $27.95 Used from: $0.01 Average Customer Rating: 4.5 out of 5(based on 38 reviews) Snow_Leopard 43 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[Eyvindur]

Over the last several years, I have read innumerable stories about how bad the crime problem is along the border that Arizona shares with Mexico.  The high crime for certain crimes such as kidnapping and murder has spilled over to urban areas as well.  phoenix.about.com/cs/living/a/livable2004.htm   Whether these statistics are a true reflection of the conditions there is debatable.     Peters defends AZ law in part by citing "soaring crime rates in our border states" From Peters' April 29 New York Post column: Our ruling class simply doesn't feel the pain. So the DC elite demonizes Arizona's desperate effort to shove the narco-revolution's disorder back across the border. Murdered ranchers, overwhelmed emergency rooms and soaring crime rates in our border states mean less to the White House than a terrorist detainee's claims of abuse. In fact, according to BJS, crime rates in border states have dropped during past decade Crime rates in Arizona at lowest point in decades. According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS), the violent crime rate in Arizona was lower in 2006, 2007, and 2008 -- the most recent year from which data are available -- than any year since 1983. The property crime rate in Arizona was lower in 2006, 2007, and 2008 than any year since 1968. In addition, in Arizona, the violent crime rate dropped from 577.9 per 100,000 population in 1998 to 447 per 100,000 population in 2008; the property crime rate dropped from 5,997 to 4,291 during the same period. During the same decade, Arizona's undocumented immigrant population grew rapidly. The Arizona Republic reported: "Between January 2000 and January 2008, Arizona's undocumented population grew 70 percent, according to the DHS [Department of Homeland Security] report. Nationally, it grew 37 percent."  mediamatters.org/research/201004290029 scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Business/images-2/illegal-immigrants-jumping-border-fence.jpg   What isn't debatable is that the rapid influx of undocumented aliens into Arizona has created a furor in the state. The new law is a local attempt to solve the problem.  The root cause of the problem is Washington's failure to protect the border.  Until Washington acts to stem the flow of undocumented immigrants and drugs crossing the border, frustration with Washington will continue. And states will act to make up for Washington's failures.      

[Wolfrick]

I think the best answer to this would start with our own U.S. attorney general admitting that his criticism was based-- on not having actually read the law. Oops. The law itself, a mere ten pages(!) only gives Arizona law enforcement the ability to enforce the law. Don't like it? Change the law they are now authorized to enforce. THAT is the beauty of the United States. It is not the purple mountain majesties nor the shining seas, but that the people can get together, make noise, and even get their representatives to change the law if they think the law is wrong. But this little whoop-te-do in Arizona is only about enforcing the law. There's no "fair" nor "unfair" in enforcing the law, but only doing one's job. The fair is in whether the LAW ITSELF is fair or unfair. And that is for our Congress to figure out. danielpauldavis 43 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.