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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

  
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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

Postby gervaso81 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:36 am

I got pulled over for using my laptop while driving. I was cited for VC 23123.5 (this is the texting and driving law in CA). Do I have a case to fight it? Technically I wasn't sending any message, which the law clearly states (see below).

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VC §23123

(a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a wireless telephone unless that telephone is specifically designed and configured to allow hands-free listening and talking, and is used in that manner while driving.

(b) A violation of this section is an infraction punishable by a base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense and fifty dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.

(c) This section does not apply to a person using a wireless telephone for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider, fire department, or other emergency services agency or entity.

(d) This section does not apply to an emergency services professional using a wireless telephone while operating an authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in Section 165, in the course and scope of his or her duties.

(e) This section does not apply to a person driving a schoolbus or transit vehicle that is subject to Section 23125.

(f) This section does not apply to a person while driving a motor vehicle on private property.

(g) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2011.
California Vehicle Code Section 23124.

(a) This section applies to a person under the age of 18 years.

(b) Notwithstanding Section 23123, a person described in subdivision (a) shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a wireless telephone, even if equipped with a hands-free device, or while using a mobile service device.

(c) A violation of this section is an infraction punishable by a base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense and fifty dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.

(d) A law enforcement officer shall not stop a vehicle for the sole purpose of determining whether the driver is violating subdivision (b).

(e) Subdivision (d) does not prohibit a law enforcement officer from stopping a vehicle for a violation of Section 23123.

(f) This section does not apply to a person using a wireless telephone or a mobile service device for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider, fire department, or other emergency services agency or entity.

(g) For the purposes of this section, "mobile service device" includes, but is not limited to, a broadband personal communication device, specialized mobile radio device, handheld device or laptop computer with mobile data access, pager, and two-way messaging device.

(h) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2008.

California Vehicle Code Section 23125.

(a) A person may not drive a schoolbus or transit vehicle, as defined in subdivision (g) of Section 99247 of the Public Utilities Code, while using a wireless telephone.

(b) This section does not apply to a driver using a wireless telephone for work-related purposes, or for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider, fire department, or other emergency service agency or entity.

(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a violation of subdivision (a) does not constitute a serious traffic violation within the meaning of subdivision (i) of Section 15210.
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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

Postby salvadore94 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:40 am

I got pulled over for using my laptop while driving. I was cited for VC 23123.5 (this is the texting and driving law in CA). Do I have a case to fight it? Technically I wasn't sending any message, which the law clearly states (see below).

Thanks


VC §23123

(a) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a wireless telephone unless that telephone is specifically designed and configured to allow hands-free listening and talking, and is used in that manner while driving.

(b) A violation of this section is an infraction punishable by a base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense and fifty dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.

(c) This section does not apply to a person using a wireless telephone for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider, fire department, or other emergency services agency or entity.

(d) This section does not apply to an emergency services professional using a wireless telephone while operating an authorized emergency vehicle, as defined in Section 165, in the course and scope of his or her duties.

(e) This section does not apply to a person driving a schoolbus or transit vehicle that is subject to Section 23125.

(f) This section does not apply to a person while driving a motor vehicle on private property.

(g) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2011.
California Vehicle Code Section 23124.

(a) This section applies to a person under the age of 18 years.

(b) Notwithstanding Section 23123, a person described in subdivision (a) shall not drive a motor vehicle while using a wireless telephone, even if equipped with a hands-free device, or while using a mobile service device.

(c) A violation of this section is an infraction punishable by a base fine of twenty dollars ($20) for a first offense and fifty dollars ($50) for each subsequent offense.

(d) A law enforcement officer shall not stop a vehicle for the sole purpose of determining whether the driver is violating subdivision (b).

(e) Subdivision (d) does not prohibit a law enforcement officer from stopping a vehicle for a violation of Section 23123.

(f) This section does not apply to a person using a wireless telephone or a mobile service device for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider, fire department, or other emergency services agency or entity.

(g) For the purposes of this section, "mobile service device" includes, but is not limited to, a broadband personal communication device, specialized mobile radio device, handheld device or laptop computer with mobile data access, pager, and two-way messaging device.

(h) This section shall become operative on July 1, 2008.

California Vehicle Code Section 23125.

(a) A person may not drive a schoolbus or transit vehicle, as defined in subdivision (g) of Section 99247 of the Public Utilities Code, while using a wireless telephone.

(b) This section does not apply to a driver using a wireless telephone for work-related purposes, or for emergency purposes, including, but not limited to, an emergency call to a law enforcement agency, health care provider, fire department, or other emergency service agency or entity.

(c) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a violation of subdivision (a) does not constitute a serious traffic violation within the meaning of subdivision (i) of Section 15210.
You have a case.
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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

Postby hyun-su » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:43 am

I don't know but I say typing is just as dangerous as texting
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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

Postby adusa37 » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:45 am

I don't know but I say typing is just as dangerous as texting
Yes, you do have a case, you can ask the court to lift the "texting while driving" charge and replace it with "reckless driving".
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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

Postby rheged » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:50 am

i would have charged you with reckless driving.

EDIT- how is using a laptop while driving not reckless?
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CA LAW: Using a laptop while driving, does it fall under 'no texting and driving' ?

Postby melville » Sat Mar 10, 2012 11:57 am

Haha no they can't ticket you for that you were just reading your map, besides that I'm sure using a laptop can't be illegal no matter what because I see the cops doing it all the time! They certainly wouldn't be doing it if was agaiast the law.
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