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Can Police Keep Biometric Data on Individual without a criminal conviction?

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Can Police Keep Biometric Data on Individual without a criminal conviction?

Postby wattekinson86 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:49 am

The WSJ asked this question: "Like fingerprints, should DNA samples be taken from people who are arrested for felonies before they’ve been convicted?"

I do not think than anyone (let alone police agencies) be allowed to keep any biometric Data on non-convicted individuals, especially not DNA or medical data.

With that stated: What court rulings all Law enforcement to keep fingerprints, photos, DNA, medical records forever on individuals that they capricious and arbitrarily arrested? Can an acquitted individual demand destruction of all illegally or unlawfully obtained identification data immediately after dismissal of charges or acquittal?

Should employers, who take a photo for their badges, be required to return all photo of employee on resignation of the employee or dismissal? Should not the employee have the right to know to whom these data have shared by the employing firm? Why or Why Not?
Privacy is vital to a health free society!

What is the State's justification for seek to retain these data on individuals?
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Can Police Keep Biometric Data on Individual without a criminal conviction?

Postby nemausus36 » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:54 am

Karen, I agree with you on the need to regain or at least retain what little privacy we still have in this nation.

However, I do think the J. Edgar Hoover blackmail Congress into making the FBI the warehouse of all collected fingerprints. He also pressured the DoD to use the SSN as military ID's along with Universities to use the SSN as student Identification numbers.

Sadly the boat has sailed on not being tracked by the FBI. There are moves to have all cars equipped with GPS and recording devices that could be used to monitor speed, behavior, and could have MADD desired sensors to detect any alcohol within the vehicle. I sadly can even foresee when the car would report your speed violations to the police each time you go over the limit. Imagine having 20 tickets on your e-mail for just one drive home from work. 10 for speeding over 3 mph above limits. 4 for failure to signal lane change on freeway. 3 for not stopping your car on a freeway when the kid in the back undid his seat belt on his booster seat to get his dropped ball. 3 because the computer just wants to show you who is boss. Cities would love this revenue.


I am against DNA being kept. DNA can be reproduced and then planted if police truly want to get you. Trust NO ONE.
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Can Police Keep Biometric Data on Individual without a criminal conviction?

Postby ryscford » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:56 am

that depends on the country..
but in general..

YES. but only for 5years. but may not be shared, with out premission.
if the individual has no criminal record.. at all.
(UK LAW)


Privacy ?? Privacy Is DEAD. like the roadkill you hit on the way to this question..

we here in the UK, will have ALL our internet activity monitored in 2012. by law.
the leading UK ISP's are testing there tracking methods allready.
and BT, has allready implimentented the system. in london. in july, but only for test purposes.
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Can Police Keep Biometric Data on Individual without a criminal conviction?

Postby josephus » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:06 am

that depends on the country..
but in general..

YES. but only for 5years. but may not be shared, with out premission.
if the individual has no criminal record.. at all.
(UK LAW)


Privacy ?? Privacy Is DEAD. like the roadkill you hit on the way to this question..

we here in the UK, will have ALL our internet activity monitored in 2012. by law.
the leading UK ISP's are testing there tracking methods allready.
and BT, has allready implimentented the system. in london. in july, but only for test purposes.
The data is not shared, it's just used to match to DNA found at crime scenes or on victims. That's the justification--solving crimes.
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Postby croslea » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:10 am

Honey, you better get in the loop. We lost our "rights" a long time ago. And there's no turning back the clock.
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Postby mate » Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:18 am

What the hell is a "health free society"?

While DNA can be used for medical information there is no current police use for it. And I wouldn't have a problem with a law that states that medical information can not be extracted from DNA tests taken for identification purposes.

The keeping of fingerprints is long settled law. And the prints available to police don't just come from arrests they also come from elective and non-elective background checks and military and government service.

The use of DNA will reduce not increase the number of false arrests and convictions.

As far as what you do with your employer as far as photos and other data that is between yourself and your employer. No one is forcing you to work for an employer that keeps information on their employees.
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