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For Trademarks, What The Difference Between Using The R Within A Circle Or Tm?

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For Trademarks, What The Difference Between Using The R Within A Circle Or Tm?

Postby Radmund » Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:36 pm

Please be specific no annecdotal diatribes.
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For Trademarks, What The Difference Between Using The R Within A Circle Or Tm?

Postby Yo » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:46 pm

(R) indicates its registered,(TM) does not There is a huge distinction.  I can clarify the distinction in the U.S.:   Anyone can use "TM" to denote a product or service name that they take into account to be their "trademark".  In the US, carrying out this gives you some rights(beneath state law) in the name as soon as you begin to use it.  Therefore, if I want to start a landscaping enterprise referred to as XYZ Landscaping, I can say XYZ Landscaping [TM], and I will have "typical law" trademark rights in this name starting when I first start to use the name.   This is quite diverse than(R), which denotes a trademark or service mark that is registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office(www.uspto.gov).  To get a registered trademark, you should file an application to register, pay some charges and wait about a year prior to the PTO concerns the mark and/or rejects it.  Note that a mark is registered only in a certain "class of goods"(e.g., landscaping), and you have NO RIGHTS in other fields.  That is why "Prince" can be a registered trademark, owned by various organizations, to designate pasta, tennis rackets, and a musician.   With a common law(TM) trademark, your rights exist only in the state(s) where you do company.  You could stop a person else from using the very same mark for the identical type of enterprise.  With a registered trademark(R), your rights exist throughout the whole US, and you can cease anyone using the mark in the exact same enterprise, including an individual who only has frequent law rights(unless, of course, the other user started employing the mark Before you got your registration -- this creates so-called prior use rights, and gets difficult). Sources: my legal practice   conocimiento's Recommendations Patents, Copyrights & Trademarks for Dummies Amazon List Price: $21.99 Employed from: $11.50 Average Customer Rating: 4.five out of five(primarily based on three evaluations) How to Register Your Personal Trademark: With Forms(How to Register Your Own Trademark) Amazon List Cost: $21.95 Employed from: $3.69 conocimiento 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please confirm your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please confirm your account to send a message.
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For Trademarks, What The Difference Between Using The R Within A Circle Or Tm?

Postby Litton » Sun Feb 02, 2014 3:31 pm

"Registered Trademark" implies that the fee has been paid and a search for other users has been completed at the United States Patent and Trademark Office, and the USPTO agrees that it's a valid mark. The owner needs to have it be registered in order to have a legally valid trademark and use it in court, and to make the claim that it has been registered it by using the circled "R". Just using a small TM indicates that the writer is claiming a trademark, but says nothing about whether or not it's been registered.   Either mark is a threat to go to court if infringed upon and nothing more. Just having the registered status isn't enough to ensure a victory in court. The rights belong to whomever used it in public first, which is not always the same as whomever registered it first.
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Postby Vsnderveer » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:54 pm

Anyone can mark their word or phrase with a TM, to indicate a claim to a trademark on those words.    Separately, anyone can apply to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to register their trademark for a specified type of good or service.  Assuming the Office has no objections, or you overcome their objectives, they publish your request for the Trademark.  If no one quickly protests(30 days), or they fail their protests, when the Office publishes your request for the Trademark, then the office issues a Certificate of Registration.  This entitles the mark to be used with the R with the circle around it.  This allows you to tell others to stop using the mark for their products or services in the types you had specified, based on your Registration.
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Postby Orrin » Sun Feb 09, 2014 6:26 pm

TM means the mark has not yet been certified as registered by US Patent Office, R means it is a registered trademark. Anyone can mark their word or phrase with a TM, to indicate a claim to a trademark on those words.    Separately, anyone can apply to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to register their trademark for a specified type of good or service.  Assuming the Office has no objections, or you overcome their objectives, they publish your request for the Trademark.  If no one quickly protests(30 days), or they fail their protests, when the Office publishes your request for the Trademark, then the office issues a Certificate of Registration.  This entitles the mark to be used with the R with the circle around it.  This allows you to tell others to stop using the mark for their products or services in the types you had specified, based on your Registration. jpriestly 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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Postby Barclay » Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:09 am

A Circled "R" stands for "Registered Trademark" "Registered Trademark" implies that the fee has been paid and a search for other users has been completed at the United States Patent and Trademark Office, and the USPTO agrees that it's a valid mark. The owner needs to have it be registered in order to have a legally valid trademark and use it in court, and to make the claim that it has been registered it by using the circled "R". Just using a small TM indicates that the writer is claiming a trademark, but says nothing about whether or not it's been registered.   Either mark is a threat to go to court if infringed upon and nothing more. Just having the registered status isn't enough to ensure a victory in court. The rights belong to whomever used it in public first, which is not always the same as whomever registered it first. LostCluster 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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Postby Lamar » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:31 am

It's very simple... Anybody can use the ? symbol to indicate that they are using a term as a trademark.  However, the ® symbol can only be used if you've registered it with the US Patent and Trademark Office. From the USPTO's website: When can I use the trademark symbols TM, SM and ®? Any time you claim rights in a mark, you may use the "TM"(trademark) or "SM"(service mark) designation to alert the public to your claim, regardless of whether you have filed an application with the USPTO. However, you may use the federal registration symbol "®" only after the USPTO actually registers a mark, and not while an application is pending. Also, you may use the registration symbol with the mark only on or in connection with the goods and/or services listed in the federal trademark registration.This page comes from the Basic Facts About Trademarks section of the site, where you can find a lot more information. Sources: USPTO Psi_Phi_Org 78 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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Postby Parkinson » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:59 pm

Anybody can use the ? symbol to indicate that they are using a term as a trademark.  However, the ® symbol can only be used if you've registered it with the US Patent and Trademark Office. From the USPTO's website: When can I use the trademark symbols TM, SM and ®? Any time you claim rights in a mark, you may use the "TM"(trademark) or "SM"(service mark) designation to alert the public to your claim, regardless of whether you have filed an application with the USPTO. However, you may use the federal registration symbol "®" only after the USPTO actually registers a mark, and not while an application is pending. Also, you may use the registration symbol with the mark only on or in connection with the goods and/or services listed in the federal trademark registration.This page comes from the Basic Facts About Trademarks section of the site, where you can find a lot more information.
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Postby Dru » Sun Feb 16, 2014 2:10 pm

There is a big difference.  I can explain the difference in the U.S.:   Anyone can use "TM" to denote a product or service name that they consider to be their "trademark".  In the US, doing this gives you some rights(under state law) in the name as soon as you start to use it.  Thus, if I want to start a landscaping business called XYZ Landscaping, I can say XYZ Landscaping [TM], and I will have "common law" trademark rights in this name starting when I first begin to use the name.   This is very different than(R), which denotes a trademark or service mark that is registered with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office(www.uspto.gov).  To get a registered trademark, you must file an application to register, pay some fees and wait about a year before the PTO issues the mark and/or rejects it.  Note that a mark is registered only in a specific "class of goods"(e.g., landscaping), and you have NO RIGHTS in other fields.  That's why "Prince" can be a registered trademark, owned by different companies, to designate pasta, tennis rackets, and a musician.   With a common law(TM) trademark, your rights exist only in the state(s) where you do business.  You could stop someone else from using the same mark for the same type of business.  With a registered trademark(R), your rights exist throughout the entire US, and you can stop anyone using the mark in the same business, including someone who only has common law rights(unless, of course, the other user started using the mark BEFORE you got your registration -- this creates so-called prior use rights, and gets complicated).
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Postby Berwyn » Thu Feb 20, 2014 2:21 am

The difference between using the R or TM symbol depends if you registered the trademark.    "The ? symbol may be used when trademark rights are claimed in relation to a mark, but the mark has not been registered with the government trademarks office of a particular country or jurisdiction, while the ® is used to indicate that the mark has been so registered"(Wikipedia).   It?s not in good practice to use the circled R symbol if your trademark is not registered.  Registration of a trademark is not mandatory though in many cases it serves as adequte proof of business and thus can protect you from lawsuits and/or other legal action.  Check out the US Patent and Trademark Office website, http://www.uspto.gov/index.html.    Hope this helps!    
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