Government can make us buy stuff?

[bean]

QUESTION: Can government make you sign anything? A Contract? A Confession?
All the below is merely commentary to flesh out the question.
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The real question here is not what flavor of poison do we want, it is will we obey the Constitution.

Any and all of their health/insurance reform/takeover plans violate the Constitution’s 4th, 5th, 9th, 10th Amendments and Article 1 (contract). They have Congress transferring power it doesn’t have to the Executive branch. They use the IRS as the enforcement agency, which has the effect of linking medical and financial info (databases), which gives the keys to your life to 600 agencies, makes your life a fishbowl and gives government total information about and control over significant parts of your life. Medical savings accounts now in existence will be useless: people will have to buy insurance or be fined/imprisoned. The whole thing violates Roe vs Wade (privacy). The obvious goal of all these plans is to eventually eliminate private insurance and give government a monopoly. I thought Liberals didn’t like monopolies?

Are we really thinking of completely overturning the Social Compact and our concept of government by allowing government to force us into contracts?

If something goes wrong under government health care, you have no recourse. Can’t sue the government unless it agrees to let you in each individual case. Look at the legal protections for vaccinations we have now. At every level they are immune from your suing them. Doctors, manufacturers, insurance companies, government officials, everyone in the chain is protected from you having any recourse in the courts if you get damaged. =Tough luck buddy! It will be same for all medicine under a government system.

Is it worth it? Would you trade your freedom for a pot of soup? The whole thing is unconstitutional from at least half a dozen angles, so it wouldn’t hold up anyway.

While advocates of this ‘new deal’ wave the flag and appeal to people’s greed and fear, the bottom line is all this is a very serious attack on the Constitution. The Constitution is the Supreme Law of The Land and all laws made must be in accordance with it.

Government is writing laws (not yet passed) threatening civil and criminal penalties for not buying somebody’s insurance product. The IRS will be the primary enforcement agency and the penalties include fines or imprisonment, possibly for a felony. That is the “gunbarrel of government coercion” (a phrase I got from the Supreme Court). Being convicted of a felony deprives the offender of the right to vote and own guns (which advocates of Totalitarian government would just love: de-fang the opposition).

Hey, maybe this could be the answer to saving the economy. If government can make us sign contracts to buy insurance, it can make us buy anything alleged to serve the greater good. It could make us buy a new car. It could make us buy one of their surplus houses. It could make us buy a new bed so the public doesn’t get stuck with the health care costs of our waking up with a stiff back. It could make us buy all kinds of stuff. Wall Street will be so happy!

By golly, I may have just saved the World. All we have to do is give government the power to make us buy stuff, to force us to sign contracts promising specific performance, and the economy could be humming along nicely in no time. Of course we would be slaves, but nobody seems to care about Freedom any more, or read the Constitution, so who would notice?

[salvadore94]

Our government is made up of bullies and control freaks. They can't make us sign anything legally...but this administration (and ones before it) isn't exactly working within the parameters of the law. I want to know how much we are going to allow. We have unparalleled corruption at so many (all) levels and they know what buttons to push...they have the code sequence...and the Cloward-Piven Strategy to get things done the way they want them done. We have the Constitution but it is worthless if we don't enforce it. We the People must demand our rights and we must follow through with our demands or it will all have been in vain....every last bit of it.

[veto]

Quite simply...NO.

[orlondo100]

Brilliant, this is the argument we need to be taking in this issue. The privacy issue was actually created in Griswold v. Connecticut in 1964 during the Warren Court, Roe just followed that precedent.
I DON'T WANT SOME COMMUNITY COLLEGE EDUCATED BUREAUCRAT LOOKING AT MY HEALTH RECORDS. I just thought I would add that in.
Thanks.

[reuben29]

Honestly, they can't make you buy but they sure as hell can penalize you and nit pick you to death if you don't. Take car insurance. If you want to drive you better have it. If you don't have it and get caught then you lose your license, pay fines, and not to mention reinstatement fees. They stick it to you. If you get caught enough times then you lose your driving privileges all together.

Nope, they can't make you but you better.