Humberto Leal, Mex. Resident: Scheduled Friday To Die, In Tx. Is This A Violation Of International Law?

[broehain61]

He was not informed he may well make contact with the Mexican consulate right after his arrest- his attorneyis claim it had been needed below international law. SCOTUS has decided previously that Worldwide law rulings don't have any effect on States. six others and he raped a woman in a party.Away Humberto took her, raped her then and once more possessing a stickk, then murdered her.http://edition.cnn.com/2011/OFFENSE/07/03/texas.death.row/

[Acharon]

obviously somebody does; or there would not be a big brouhaha over it.   TheLightWorks 30 months ago

[Berinhard]

Ever because Mo. v. Holland in 1920, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_v._Holland, treaties have been recognized as portion of the Supreme Law of the Land along with the constitution and the federal statutes. Because the US is a signatory to the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations, we had an obligation to inform his consulate, if it was identified that he was a foreign national. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Consular_RelationsThe foregoing notwithstanding, the failure to notify his consulate might be known as "harmless error," meaning that it was too insignificant to influence the outcome of the trial.This is not a query of international law. Considering that the US signed the treaty, if any law was broken, it was American law.   Snow_Leopard 30 months ago http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_v._Holland

[hagalean]

[tal]

so what the supreme court must decide is if they violated his rights by not providing him contact with his consulate; or if he abrogated his rights by not notifying them he was not a US citizen.or to put it in more anecdotal terms; are police now going to be required to read a suspect his Miranda Rights; and then his Leal rights?   TheLightWorks 30 months ago

[eadelmarr]

I think the courts will have to rule on this and the death penalty will stand because of the heiniousness of the crime and the proclivity of certain states to use capital punishment.If an American committed these acts in Mexico he'd likely be given consulate access.There is no death penalty in Mexico for any offense. The drug gangs would probably get to you in Mexico before trial or possibly the police, depending on what area the crime occurred. I would hope the rule of law in the U.S. would be followed as usual.   dougiedognabit 30 months ago

[Eifion]

It could be. I wold wait and sort this out.   Gary4books 30 months ago

[Vontell]

that was the relevant portion of the constitution; which indicates that the supreme court has jurisdiction.   TheLightWorks 30 months ago

[Artus]

The state has no right to abrogate a federal treaty. I never said that they did.Are you answering someone else?   ElBanditoRoso 30 months ago

[Baillidh]

I am saying I don't want to be involved in any of the parties involved's shoes. apparently the outcome of the trial is just; and the case is being used as a political football; by those who enjoy such games. there are also unanswered questions; like why they did not know he was not a US citizen.It also delves into the politics of whether he is subject to our laws and penalties; or Mexico's laws and penalties - and by association whether US citizens abroad are subject to the laws of the country they are visiting.I recall an outcry some years back; because an american kid was caught painting grafitti in a south asian country and was sentenced to a caning; and there was a huge outcry.   TheLightWorks 30 months ago