If I attend a private school, can I immediately demand that the school abandon all of their rules?

by **baigh** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:17 pm

For example, Brigham Young is a private school with a strict, Mormon-based honor code among other things. If I attend BYU, can I simply demand that they abandon all of that for me? Or let's say I attend Georgetown, a private Catholic school, and go to law school there. Can I simply demand that they abandon all of their policies rooted in Catholicism?

Full disclosure: I'm an atheist who believes in and respects the private property rights of religious schools.

by **eoforwic** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:19 pm

you can demand it.....and if it is a school funded with tax-payers dollars you might even be able to make it stick.

BYU however is not. it is a church owned and operated and paid for school - so if you don't like their rules or don't want to live by them you should consider another option.

by **matyas** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:23 pm

Yes, actually.

Hence, why white public schools and private colleges in the south had to start desegregating campuses, despite an history entirely composed of white scholasticism.

The constitution does not give institutions rights. It gives individuals rights. It gives states rights. It gives the Federal government rights. It mentions nothing of private institutions.

Though, the Supreme court just decided that religious institutions have much more leeway than any other private institution. They literally just ruled that private institutions don't have to honor the same rules that secular institutions do (meaning the Obama administration actually has a record of openness towards religious institutions).

So, in truth that private religious college could specifically discriminate against you, specifically single you out and not allow you to enroll, with absolutely no legal ramification on your part. Their reasoning doesn't matter. You cannot attend their college if they do not want you to. Though, once enrolled they do have to honour Federal, state and local law towards their attendees. That's how the legal system works.

by **talbot** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:26 pm

Yes, actually.

Hence, why white public schools and private colleges in the south had to start desegregating campuses, despite an history entirely composed of white scholasticism.

The constitution does not give institutions rights. It gives individuals rights. It gives states rights. It gives the Federal government rights. It mentions nothing of private institutions.

Though, the Supreme court just decided that religious institutions have much more leeway than any other private institution. They literally just ruled that private institutions don't have to honor the same rules that secular institutions do (meaning the Obama administration actually has a record of openness towards religious institutions).

So, in truth that private religious college could specifically discriminate against you, specifically single you out and not allow you to enroll, with absolutely no legal ramification on your part. Their reasoning doesn't matter. You cannot attend their college if they do not want you to. Though, once enrolled they do have to honour Federal, state and local law towards their attendees. That's how the legal system works.

by **rushford79** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:28 pm

SO you challenge the Free speech right vs Right to practice religion?
If a person is on Private school grounds, and it is a religious school, that school pays ZERO property taxes. It is considered PRIVATE PROPERTY and not under the control of the US government so long as they break no laws, they are protected.

You might not like the Catholic or Mormon rules of those schools, but it then becomes your choice to follow their rules or leave. They earned the right to make their own rules based on their religious principles.

I do see a problem where there is a Muslim Training Camp in Islamaberg, NY where gunfire can be heard from the street. I find that Religious Camp a threat to non-Muslim Americans and a red flag to very scary problem brewing.

by **bellden** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:33 pm

Only if you're a 30 year old DNC operative who enrolled for the PURPOSE of agitating and demanding to force the school to change its policies, in support of Obama's efforts to violate the separation of church and state.

by **oakley** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:35 pm

No they'd boot you out unless you had Barack 0bama& the media on call

by **ned** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:38 pm

Many rights, including some of your first amendment rights, are dramatically reduced when you enroll in a private school or private college. The belief being, if you can't take their rules, then why enroll?

by **kirklin** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:42 pm

Of course, you can demand anything you want.

But you would be a bit foolish if you expected your demands to be fulfilled.

With love in Christ.

by **taillefer** » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:49 pm

Absolutely, and they can respond by throwing you out or not even accepting you. Education is not an entitlement in this country.

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