Sunni-ismaili Marraige

[Sullivan]

s As I have seen on the website like sex before marriage , Alcohol etc . http://www.ismaili.net/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=just type word sex and you will see many where such questions are asked if sex can be done before marriage , if child can be produce before marriage , and in answer many ismailis will be saying its OK to have sex before islam. While its obvious like a sun that its haram. This is because your generation are never taught Quran and Hadiths. 5)   Hhn my brother you didn’t under stand the meaning if this words hidden meaning of Quran does not means of that meaning of that words which are in Quran it some that some thing witch are not in Quran but they have strong link with Islam e.g. donkey is haram our jahaz is haram it not in Quran imam tells about this things not the words which are in Quran. ya Allah has told 4 time in one surah that Quran is in the simplest farm .I again ask why God is inviting people to read and understand Quran and says it is made easier to understand , off course it has multiple meanings because of rich text of Quran , and any wise man can elaborate meaning from it , it doesn’t mean ONLY HE can elaborate its meaning. If he does , has he published any book elaborating its meaning based on Surah?? I wud certainly like to study and enlighten myself. 6)   Who has told you that Quran is not taught In jk  from nursery class the Quran is been taught in jk in nursery class we are teaching Quran Qaida to children from here we are teaching Quran of course we are not using such a strategy for teaching the Quran which is in madrasahs bit with pips etc.How many percentage of ismaili people can read Quran in Arabi ? if not do they read Quran translation regularly ?? its only read as an optional subject , only as specialist subject ,I think. How many Hafiz Quran ismails have ?? Do you know Arabic have you read whole Quran in Arabic as well its translation ??? 7)   jamat khana is not only pray hall for us in there we have offices, finance system  and anther things that’s whey due to security reason we are not allowing any non ismaili to inter in jk.Why you hide the way you pray , does any religion hides on the world , why we cant any videos or so on youtube etc how you pray. Secrecy is the essence of ismailism, I have even heard that of if you say something happening in JK then its just like you have committed zina and you need to reconfirm the bayah to imam. Is that true ?? 8)   Whose has told you that we are not preaching Islam we are preaching Islam by our work by helping people by giving them education by giving them health facilities. For that purpose(AKDN) has open 52 institutions all over the world. We are preaching Islam to non Muslims not in different sects of Islam like other doing  my question was if Aga Khan knows the meaning of Quran is there any sermon where he speaks about meaning of Surah Yaseen , Surah baqarah etc. Do he understand Arabic as its essential to understand Quran . if you say no he cant but with translation he can elaborate by grace of God then,  why not God by miracle given him Miracle to read Arabic. Why not he addresses mass meetings and replies answer to solution of problems Quoting ayat of Quran and Hadiths. 9)   Yes we are giving priority to hazart ali  than other khalifas because in the place of gadir khum prophet(pbun) said that(man kun tum mola fahaza ali mola) and he is the first imam of us yes in the ginan the person sad that is not mean that Ali is God in Sufism a stage camas which is called marifat in the that stage a person says any word to his beloved he say GOD creator any word he uses like mansoor halaj sad annal haq the is the case of one person not the hole sect if you read about Sufism you will came to know about this .Well I disagree with you , in Sufism one is very close to God so every word shud be carefully written or spoken , to say Ali is creator is I think the clear offense to God Authority and shirk. Regarding Ghdeer Khum I will ask you below as a question. 10)   Yes we are taking the name of Allah when we are taking sajdah in namaz we are saying(subhana rabbi al ala) mean Glory be to my Lord, the most High and in dua we are saying(allah hum malakh su jodi wata ati)mean oh allah my all sajadh and worshipping’s are only and only for you I didn’t raise any objection on that. But do you take name of Your imam in Sajdah do you ??Now sir I have few more Queries hope you will reply them as well ; Few questions might be repeated so please if u wanna reply them its ur own choice 1.   Why Quran does not say CLEARLY after Rasool there will be imam in every time and one has to follow them and that imam can change practices of Islam. Why this FUNDAMENTAL pillar of Islam is left in Quran without any clear sentence. Did God deliberately left this so that we will fight each other and divided in to sect, is that was goal of Allah. 2.   Does Hazrat Ali or any other imam after him said the same CLEAR statement that we are superior to Quran and we can change Quran practices and we are your imam and there will be imams after us till Qayamat.3.   Did any one ask forgiveness form Rasool Allah or Hazrat Ali and recited their name in Sajdah or Salat. 4.   Did any imam asked its followers to prostrate in front of them and say its name and ask forgiveness to them. 5.   Is any where written in Quran that it is time bound and will be explained by imams in different times. 6.   Why all initial imam married Muslims females in that way they married their own daughters as your explanation of marriages of Prince karim to non Muslims , as far as I knows  your imam also married non muslim after converting them to ismaili so again he married to his daughter in other way. 7.   What`s difference bet Rasool and imam. As formerly Rasool came to change previous Rasool shariat. Your imam is also changing that , he has changed namaz , Hajj, zakat etc etc. Almost replaced Quran by saying himself as walking talking Quran. You also don’t read Quran. Then practically he is claiming him as Rasool rather imam. 8.   If Your imam knows meaning of Quran why he don’t gives lectures on topics and Surat on Quran , is there are available on any website ??? I want to listen him. If ismailies are 1.5 million , it means only 1 % is following correct path and this trend is going to continue as you will never open doors to other Muslims in jamatkhana to preach this correct sect. This means only one percent is on right path and that religion who is supposed to dominate world , its 99% population is on wrong path. ??? How can I accept this?? 9.   If he is imam of time then why he has ignored 5 billion muslims , why don’t he preach him and show him right path?? It means he has no worry for majority of muslims(if he thinks we are muslims) why he is concentrating on tiny 1% population as always for last 1400 years. It means for 1400 years he never guided 99% of muslims, is this true responsibility of imam?? Should imam of times behave like. 10.   If you fear of having lash back from muslims , do you preach your sect to non muslims , is it allowed for Christian or any other person to enter in Jamatkhana.    11.   If me or any other non muslims  ask your imam same questions will he say go to my websites or consult my scholars???You  will you provide any proof , that Karim Aga khan is the imam of times??Tell me how you will prove ?? suppose I am a Christian or even sunni and if I wanna became ismaili how you will make me believe on him??Your imams was in hiding for many times and initial imams were martyred(shaheed) , so why I should trust him to be true and authentic ,I mean he may be deceiving  and claiming himself as imam to enjoy its status and fortunes Your sect was also divided in to Nizari and mustaali ?? why and who was right at that time ?? Why this imamat is running in family ??? is this similar to Royalty or Monarchy ??? Where King made son to follow his kingdom. If you say that it has to run in Ahlebayet then there must be many Ahleybait then him ,I mean prophet Nasal is not running ONLY through him. Why he does not give his imamat other then to his family? Is imamate is like a family fortune similar to Jaageer or Jaeedaad. Is this the same reason of disputes imamat tree is divided in to many branches like many sons fighting for father inheritance.. is this the way DIVINELY imamat are settled??? Who is suppose to settle issue at the times of two imams like at the time of Jaffer sadiq or at the time of Ismail ??? Who was authority to decide who is right and who is wrong??? What is difference between Prophet and imam as he is behaving like prophet changing sharia(Tariqah) You haven’t replied me about his marriages why he chooses only non muslims ??? Why women leaves that perfect man and takes divorce, and why even after living with most holiest and divine man on earth they leaves him and then lives same style of life as before. Why after living with this perfect divine man doesn’t make any impact in them????? Why even living with imam they don’t see God`s noor in this divine man and continue to lives as  non muslim. :  shaheen wrote at 2012-03-05 08:50:19

dear All Muslim Brothers and Sisters as i read All of your information that you gave about sect of ismaili as my idea that i have seen many wise man from Suni Brothers and Shia Brothere i really trust them these information are not belong to them becouse they all read and knows the history of islam they never say like these about the ismaili sect.you are the person that you dont know whats Quran and whats the religen and whate human being ? its nessary that you should ask from your self? why the Allah Creat you ? for what you come her ? what do you need when you go back? whats the mean of your creation ? whats the wold for ? sorry Dears these all requir for you to know first second time your eyes will be open to show you that next what will do. pray always that Allah solve your mentl problem  dr khalid farooq wrote at 2012-04-04 09:19:37

As for as i know that there are difference of openions in between different sects of islam.The main thing is that it is nt our job to say who is muslim who is non muslim,rather it is the job of allah.the main issue is who is following khatamunnabeen Mohammad(P.B.u.h)in true spirit.if you see through out history all the masangers of God has a long history of struggle against the thaghoot and impeial powers of that time like Moosa against firoon and qaroon ,Ibrahim against namrood,mohammad against abu-jehl ana his whole party.So in the light of this uswa there are many sects whose leaders are nourished and funded by imperial powers like France ,U.K,and ammerica.So fro this you can by urself get the conclusion that who is working as their puppets. Ehsan wrote at 2012-05-23 21:57:54http://asianedition.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.htmlI wonder why this gentle man kissing the girls feet?  Nabeela wrote at 2012-06-28 18:19:26

I am Ismaili and some of the things some people have said about Ismaili people...is just ridiculous. I feel sorry for the people who say Ismailis are not Muslim because of the lack of your education you have on Ismailis. It is very narrow minded way of thinking. Yes Ismaili follows and do things a little differently but that DOES NOT MEAN WE ARE NOT MUSLIM. If you look at a lot of different faiths it is divided and prayers and practices are different. That does not mean one is more right or correct then the other one or the same faith just because you do not understand that faith or agree with the practices. Shia breaks down in more than just Ismaili there is another group as well so does that mean they aren't Muslims as well???..so do your research. It’s very interesting how people compare Suni with Shia Ismaili and not Shia Ismaili with Suni...who made Suni the right or correct way to follow Islam??? Who are you to decide or say Ismailis are not Muslim. Only Allah has that right not any man or women. There are so many inter-religious marriages and they work just fine. No man or women can tell any man or women to not marry who they love. I am in a serious relationship with a Suni man and we plan on marriage and nothing will stop both of us from that. Both our parents know and accept us. So stop with the bullshit some of you are saying and do your OWN research instead of copying and taking other peoples’ thoughts and narrow mindedness. Try to think for yourself instead of only what you are taught it helps to develop your mind because so far all i read are things taught from elders or religious practices from the ones saying Ismailis are not Muslim. If you say “oh Ismaili don’t do this and that or don’t believe this or they don’t practice the same prayers so they are not Muslim. Why don’t you find out WHYY!!! instead of saying and being like every uneducated person out there.  The more intellectual questions you could ask would sound more like “why do they pray differently”?? Why do they have a spiritual leader?? Shia ismaili is not as old of a religion as suni so something must have happend to make all these changes because we were all one before...question is why. Maybe looking into the history of Islam for the reason of division and different practices would be the start of your research instead of putting Ismaili down by saying we are not Muslim that is an uneducated statement and narrow minded.  Start thinking for yourself and not only what you have been taught or read. You have a mind for a reason.  Bhojani wrote at 2012-06-29 14:00:45

aga khan claims to be a direct descendant of the prophet.I am an ex-ismaili, I can assure you that aga khan is misguiding the entire ismaili community.1) Search for "aga khan vacation" on youtube and see what he does with every ones money.2) Search for "aga khan sells alcohol" on youtube and see a list of hotels(serena hotels) that sell alcohol even in muslim countries.After the dua is finished, everyday in the jamaat khana, ismailis ask aga khan(not Allah) for health, wealth and prosperity.This is a direct contradiction of islamic values.  SOUTH AFRICAN MUSLIM wrote at 2012-07-13 13:45:18

CMON GUYS! SPREAD LOVE NOT ANIOMOSITY. TO EACH HIS OWN. WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER AGAINST ISRAEL AND THE EVIL YAHOOD! PEACE!THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT US. THE YAHHOD ARE LAUGHING AT US! *HUGS ALL AROUND* samkkc wrote at 2012-08-13 19:47:39

Yes..We Should not spread hate and enmity among our Sects...but but but...We Should Spread a Correct & Authentic Knowledge and reality to each and every muslim..First of all...We should not decide and say that Ismailis are non-muslims..As they Recite the Same Qalma and consider the Basic Aqeedah OF Islam & Claim to be muslims..So..they are Muslims certainly..But they are not Practising the Correct Islamic Teachings and not holding Fundamental Pillars....They are stretched from the mainstream and right way...the have been deviated...and there is a Shirq..concept among them...but it is not officially...It remains as insight & secretly...unannounced....means...it is a very very clever and double standard theme n concept..That They consider and have faiths upon there ShirQ based Concept but the do not officially called for it...its hidden...but it is every where in the Ismaili Salaah...u will find many many Mushrikeen Concepts and such bad and wrong points...But even ....knowing this.. we have no right to state them as non-muslims...They are muslims but they are not practising the Right Islam..I hope and pray that May ALLAH(S.A) Guide them and show them a right path and drag them to the Holy Book...Quran..Ismailis Should learn and understand Quran...GOD BLESS EVERY ONE...PEACE FOR ALLAmeen...!! :-) Shairoz Dewji wrote at 2012-09-02 13:21:06

1. Ali wrote at 2007-12-23 02:31:03Ismailis are NOT Muslims, I don't understand how they can think of themselves as Muslims. When they pray they pray to a picture of this Aga Khan 2. rani kana wrote at 2008-11-24 00:26:25ismailis are idolators, the take agakhan as god who has received noor from Allah.  they are big time mushriks, and muslims are not allowed to marry any of their men or woman. though they say he is just imam but they should see what they recite in their jamat khanas. the mukhis are agents of agakhan and their missionaries are brain washing their ismailis community. may Allah show them the true islam. 3. Muhammad mudassar qasim wrote at 2010-01-26 13:37:00•   They are Ismailis(not Muslims) and they follow a devil who claims to be a descendant of the Prophet(SAWS). He not only claims to be a descendant but the Ismaili belief is that the "Agha Khan" is both Allah "incarnate" and Rasulullah "incarnate", and Ismailis make du'aa to him! 4. Mohammed Ali wrote at 2010-06-19 06:57:40As Salaam Alaikum,  Dear brothers and sisters at any cost Ismailis are NOT MUSLIMS first of all they dont follow and believe in the five pillars of Islam and they dont perform taharat(cleaning the genital parts after getting relieved) and ismailis simply pray Aga Khan nauzbillah they address him as Maula, Ismailis take and give interest, Drinking Sharaab is permissible in their religion, if go to Jamaat Khana(Haraam Khana) they pray Aga Khan, nauzbillah seeing Aga khan is considered as HAjj for them they call it as Deedar and after finishing their prayers they greet each other saying Shah jo Deedar means(tumko aga khan ka deedar naseeb ho) they take food to their jamaat khan and auction it and the money goes to jamaat khana they call it Nandi and my brothers and sisters they preach aga khan in their jamaat khana's in a rythmic was and call it as Ginan u know guys this is the only one sect in the whole world who dont bow their heads in front of the Almighty Allah the bottom line is ISMAILIS ARE NOT MUSLIMS AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS MUSLIMS BECAUSE THEY PREACH AGA KHAN AS MAULA(NAUZBILLA), 5. Heya wrote at 2010-08-23 12:32:32Ismailis = refuse to acknowledge Islam and its laws. They refuse to pray salah but have instead made up their own prayers and even changed the testimony(shahada) suit their blasphemy. They believe in hidden meanings even when Allah has forbidden batin clearly in the Quran. They refuse to pray the way that Muhammad and Ali did. They refuse to believe in the Quran but change it according to their own perverse needs. They ridicule those who stick to the Quran as being primitive and non humans(e.g. donkeys). They seek constant proof for something that does not exist. They believe Allah conspired against ismailis and therefore the "evil" sunnis have removed all trace of Ali in the Quran and hadiths. Of course Ali was never mentioned in the first place but when you want something bad enough, just do like the ismaili. Make it up. They devided themselves from the main shia branch over disagreements of Al Sadiq(?) or whoever. Little known to Ismailis Allahhas forbidden muslims to divide into subgroups to deter division. Of course Ismailis don't acknowledge the word of Allah but aga khan. They adhere to a man not Allah and by changing Islam there is not much left of islam in Ismailism not that there was much to begin with. Their imams live under the false impression that they are divine and have the authority to change and remove things as they see fit. Again they forget who created them and who really has the ojnly authority. There is only one right here; either Allah or Ismailis and the truth is Allah. Ismailis are a sect who should be ashamed of themselves to even call themselves muslims. Forget sunni even mainstream shia do not acknowledge ismailis as being muslims. Ismailis = kafir.6. shams wrote at 2011-02-12 01:18:47salam to brothers and sister. i was once a ismailie but i have converted due to the following things they follow. they say going to khane is like going to makah to perfome haji, NO WAY TO THAT/ you have pay to be in some special prayer if u dont pay u cant stay, half of the things they do they dont know why they do it, everyone praises aga khane like if he is god staferallah, they say u have to pray to aga khane and then to ali and then to muhammed sws and then your prayer will be send to allah. this is all wrong and they dont even recite the quran. from what i experienced ismailies are way off board. praseing a man is wrong if he is who u think he is then aga khane should be spreading islam all over the world like prophet muhammed sws. prophet muhammed could of choise any of the sahabas to be followed by and prophet muhammed said many good things about all the suhabas. the person that look for his right deen will find it inshallah if allah has chosen him/her to be guided to the right path. '''To all those mentioned above all of u have no brains as a matter of fact accordin 2 me. u think that u r God ryt? u cn decide who is right or wrong?  U think that u r the smartest people in the world ryt? And the person mentioned on no. 6 is shameless he/she although being an ismaili he is insulting his own religion, shame on u.. u r gng 2 b punished by God severely.  And Pls stop insulting the Ismaili religion.  Ali wrote at 2012-09-21 17:53:11

Ismailis are unfortunately not Muslims... They pray to Allah through the imam as a medium believing the imam has the soul of Allah within him which provides him with special powered even the Holy Prophet(SAW) did not even have. This is commonly known as shirk in Islam which is obviously one of the biggest sins in Islam. The do not follow the five pillars of Islam. The have replacements for each and every pillar of Islam. Hajj is similar to performing dedar(meeting the imam). Fasting in Ramadan has been replaced by beej which is also a fast but only two of them occur in a year. Prayers have been changed to three times a day with a completely different format. Surahs from the Quran have been taken and not altered but mixed together in such a manner the meaning changes but yet it seems authentic. The imam blood line possibly has not been entirely authentic. Around the 26th imam.. Imam alazhikrihis salam.. Also known as the man of the mountain may have not been a direct descendant of the previous imam. The imam claims he has altered these things for today's mankind. Can he explain how two imams ago the prayer was said in the Shia format? To all you Ismailies out there don't you notice how every time you give money in jamat Khana it's always taken in cash form never cheques? Did you hear about the issue where over a million dollars of the jamats money was caught on the border of America? I myself was an Ismaili at one point and my parents are still Ismaili and no matter how hard I try to believe all of this is correct I cannot hide from the truth. I believe in seeking knowledge to find out the truth. I did a lot of research before I converted to Sunnism. I am not just blabbering away because I am not Ismaili anymore. I have nothing personal against them as my parents are Ismaili. I just don't think what they donis correct and I hope many of them read this. I don't want you all to believe what I have written here. Ease read for yourselves and find out the truth. I know inshAllah one day you will :) some of my sources to guide you are as follows : the throne of gold. The assassins and a couple of books written by an Ismaili convert. These books can be found on allahuakbar.net regarding the history of the Aga Khans. I have just recently converted about a month ago and I thank Allah for guiding me to the right path. I still don't know how to say my namaz correctly but I try hard every day to perfect it. Utilize your life to learn what I have and inshAllah Allah will bless you with the truth. Goodluck to very Ismaili out there :) AllahHafiz Nadhir Hussain wrote at 2012-09-26 04:42:03

Dearest Muslim Brothers,sisters,Scholars and academics from all walks of ISLAM,May Allah Keep you all safe and well and may the NOOR of Allahguide you to His Kingdom of Heaven and Paradise where sleep and dreams are made, where all that is imperfect is made perfect and may the names of the entire Umaah be carved upon all the entrances to His kingdom......Ameen, Ameen.I have read pages and pages on ISMAILI Muslims, read all the questions & answers and all sugestions and opinions and I am by no means an academic.....BUT I am a Shiah ISMAILI Muslim who has married into a Pakistani Family and I conclude the following:1) For all those who think ISMAILIS are not Muslims, please   look deep into your heart and sweep away the dust and CLENSE   YOURSELVES for Allah Lives in evry heart.2) I am an ISMAILI and probably the least practicing one on the   Planet,However, my research has brougt out a lot of facts on   the subject. Firstly, we believe in the AGA KHAN because He   is a direct descendant in line from Hazrat Ali(pbuh) and   and Prophet Muhammed through the Fatimids Caliphate, as Ali   was by the grace of the Prophet married to Fatima. He stands   as our IMAM-E-ZAMAAN(Imam of our time).   During the last days of Our Beloved Prohet(pbuh), there was   a lot of conflict, as to who would take ISLAM and spread the   word into the next phase or generation.At this stage it was   made clear that the first born male child would become the   next PEER or IMAM all the way to IMAM JAFAR-E-SADIQ who had   two sons of whom we ISMAILIS follow ISHMAIL(pbuh) and all   the way to the IMAM AGA KHAN.   This Conflict brought about many changes and suddenly there   were DIFFERENT Sects and ISLAM started to break up. The   IMAMS that followed appointed MAULVI-SABS to spread the   word, where as all IMAMS in LINE from ISHMAIL condutcted   their own duties to spred ISLAM and The AGA KHAN stands in   line to conduct His DUTIES as IMAM3) This, I am sorry to say lead to various different   interpretations of the SURAHS and Qurani Ayats which to this   day cause conflict, especially at the time of RAMADAN   where SHIAHS in Pakistan and SUNNIS everywhere clash for   the sightings of the moon  to start RAMADAN and end up with   EID a day apart(just one example of conflict) of Maulvisabs   YES, the fundamental issues of the Quran and the Hadiz must   be followed....i.e do as Our Beloved Prophet(pbuh) did....   waduh, shahdah, salat ect. ect. which the ISMAILIS dont do.4) almost 80% of ISMAILIS were Hindus during the DAYS OF THE   RAJ in INDIA AND THE 20% across IRAN, IRAQ and the Middle   East were Bedouins and Normads and asassins during the fall   of the FATIMID EMPIRE. So the Asians(hindus) became converts   to ISMAILIS and migrated to EAST AFRICA to avoid   persecution.5) At this stage the Quran was not and to this day remains   unimportant because we ISMAILIS have the AGA KHAN to guide   us. Extracts of QURANI AYATS have been taken By the IMAM AGA   KHAN and recited as DU'A in the Jamat Khanas and Ginans are   ISLAMIC Poetry same as SHIAH/SUNNI provide NAMAAZ & NAATS   which all lead to the same devotional message in praise for   ALAAH and forgiveness from ALLAH.6) ISMAILISM is MODERN and LIBERAL. the faster pace of LIFE   in General has granted ISMAILIS 3 prayes a day which is   better than the SHIAH/SUNNI 5 prayers a day which they   cannot sometimes MEET due to the demands of everyday LIFE   today.   For us ISMAILIS Our IMAM AGA KHAN is a MEDIUM by which we   feel that HE does not FORGIVE US our SINS but gives us ALL   the BLESSINGS for the good we do and as a MEDIUM HE asks   ALLAH to in-turn FORGIVE HIS MOMINS or His Servants for the   any wrong doing same as Our BELOVED PROPHET(pbuh) did during   HIS time for His People.   We do not preach to the photograph of The AGA KHAN, we   preach to Allah and all His Messengers in line.   I personally have yet to see an ISMAILI drink alcohal.   However, I did a degree in Hotel management and was acting   GM for TRUSTHOUSE FORTE HOTELS in LONDON and I can solenmly   confirm that during the time of RAMADAN our Hotels were FULL   of ARAB/ASIAN SHIAHS and SUNNIS drinkig alcohol and   womanising and showing off their wealth which ALLAH condemns   in the QURAN.   Further more, SHIAH/SUNNI Muslims treat their WIVES like   Servants and maids(by my observation...not cticism).   We ISMAILIS allow our Wives to work along with us and try   and educate them.   For us ISMAILIS...Hajj is important but not necessary...and   certainly not fulfilled by the sheer glimpse of AGA KHAN.   Zakaat is imprtant to us, however, it is MAAFI to those on   low income.   SHIAHS/SUNNI have no guidance but the word of varios MAULVIS   which is totally different from ONE MAULVISAB TO THE NEXT   and because of this LACK of Guidance everyone interpretes   the QURAN and the Hadiz by individual standards. 90% of   MAULVIES lack understanding and education.   The QURAN is very COMPLEX and therefore it is better for us   ISMAILIS to act on the Guidance of our IMAM AGA KHAN than   make a mockery of ISLAM.   We too, believe in MARTYDORM but through good deeds in   Society rather than becoming a suicide bomber on political   issues.   ALAAH gave you Life and HE alone can take it at the time   of HIS chossing yet people blow themselves up in the name   of ALLAH.....For what?????   Finaly, I'd like to finish by letting everyone know that   We are all LEAVES OF THE SAME FAMILY TREE OF LIFE.   We just break up and represent ourselves through various   braches.   We ISMAILIS do not consider ourselves as SUPERIOR to SHIAHS   or SUNNIS, but....by right we should because we have an   IMAM descendant to guide us.   On the question of GAMBLING....The AGA KHAN is actually   Involved in breeding Arabian/Persian horses and like to take   pride racing them. unforyunately, everything is controlled   by BOOKIES and therefore The AGA KHAN take part in this   system purely as a hobby and this is considered just that.     Thankyou for your kind attention to this.   May ALLAH show "US" all the right path.   ALLAH HAFIZ  Nadhir Hussain wrote at 2012-10-01 00:25:26

Dear Brothers and sisters of ISLAM,Follow up to the above article of mine, please note also the following points......1)For the SHIAHS/SUNIS, the word ZAKAAT means giving donations  based on the amount of GOLD in the Household. So, if there  is no GOLD, then no ZAKAAT? doesn't make sense!!!!  ISMAILI ZAKAAT is based on income.2)We ISMAILIS follow our IMAM AGA KHAN because throughout our  history, we have been guided to seek the INNER MOST truth  within ourselves....as well as the TRUTH of DIVINE guidance  and the NOBLE QURAN and how it is presented to us.  Since the QURAN is complex and Arabic is hard to read and  write, we follow Our IMAM.  Now a days one can read the QURAN in English...BUT..BUT  How is it possible to RECITE the surahs in English?..I ask.  I was once given a PRAYER MAT with ARABIC SCRIPTURES on it  and was determined to find out what was written on this  PRAYER MAT so I asked the local MAULVIESAHIB to explain and  HE said that this was far to complex for HIM.(this is one  example of the complexity of arabic and the QURAN.3)on the question of MARRIAGE, I have yet to come across  anything in writing that ONE should not marry an ISMAILI.  (The NIKAAH is the same....so why not?) I ask.  Shaadi ki jodi ASMAAN mein Banti Hai...by ALLA'S WILL.  SHIA/SUNNI WOMEN are not allowed to marry outside ISLAM...  yet the MEN are...WHY? ALLAH has given more rights to WOMEN  then MEN....doesen't make sense.4)On the question of ALCOHOL...There is no such writing in   the QURAN...ONLY our Hadiz has banished this....because   in the OLD days, people used to drink and cause a NUISANCE   in the negibourhood with filthy and foul language and beat   their women folk and children because they were not in their   right state of mind and then said SORRY to their wives and   kids when the damage had already been done. So why cause   HAVOC and INFLICT PAIN on others and then feel ashamed and   sorry? ISLAM is a PEACE teaching faith within the family and   within the  neighbourhood and in the world and that's why   ALCOHOL was BANNED!!!!!5) SUICIDE bombers act on POLITICAL ISSUES and leave behind   their LOVED ONES....WHY? WHAT becomes of them?   Most WOMEN and CHILDREN resort to BEGGING to support   themselves because HE committed suicide.... IS THIS RIGHT?   BEGGING IS A SIN.   ISLAM was laid down by ALLAH.....POLITICS is man made...so   WHY leave ALLAH and take part in POLITICS and say "this is   MARTYRDOM."...   When OUR Beloved PROPHET MUHAMMAD(pbuh) went to MECCA and a   POLITICAL DECISION was made by the GOVERNER that "YOU and   your FOLLOWERS are welcome here for HAJJ for 3 months and   should leave thereafter. This truce will remain for 10 years   and be reviewed"....why was there no acts of MARTYRDOM   then???..   Because Our Beloved PROPHET(pbuh) was a PEACE loving   PERSON(pbuh) AND DID NOT WISH TO CAUSE CONFLICT with man   made POLITICS and ALLAH'S WILL....as much  as HE loved KAABA   suicide is actually a SIN and to KILL others   in the process is even more GUNNAH..Why kill others...they   haven't harmed you and what or who gives you the right to   TAKE other peoples LIVES....ONLY ALLAH CAN DO THIS.   This is yet another example of SHIAH/SUNNI interpretation.Overall, the ISMAILIS have more unity and respect for all others...MUSLIMS, CHRISTIANS, JEWS and non believers....where as SHIA/SUNNI believe that everyone outside of ISLAM isan infedel.Our beloved PROPHET(pbuh) said you should not mock me or myfamily members or all those friends and relatives associated with me or those whom I have chosen to spread the word of QURAN.We, as ISMAILIS respect all the sons and descendants of the Family Tree of Our Prophet Muhammad(pbuh).History tells us that Our Prophet(pbuh) deligated all his Family and COUNCIL of IMAMS to do CHARITABLE work.History of ISMAILIS also shows ALL the IMAMS carrying out THEIRDUTIES accordingly all the way to THE AGA KHAN who...throughHIS network(AKDN) DOES more to better the LIFE of Humanity than the SHIAHS/SUNNI sect.The SHIAH/SUNNI community make donations to buy ARMS and get involved with POLITICAL issues and change the TOTAL focuson ISLAMUltimately, we also know that the AGA KHAN is not a PROPHETbecause there will be no more PROPHETS after PROPHET MUHAMMAD(pbuh).However, the AGA KHAN is an IMAM descendant of the family treeof MUHAMMAD and deserves total respect for HIS STATUS on thePLANET.May we all be guided by ALLAH on the right path and may the NOOR of ALLAH always shine upon us.May he give us all....The DEATH of a SHAHEEDMay HE grant us death while we are in SAJDAHMay the last words of our Lives be SHAHADAHMay the last beat of our hearts be...the DHJKR of ALLAHMay the Guider of all SOULS forgive the entire UMMAHMay HE forgive our Parents, our families and friendsAnd May HE only take us when HE is Happy with us.AMEEN....THUMA AMEEN  stranger wrote at 2012-10-11 09:14:09

ALAMA IQBAL_SAYEDNathe jub apne hall ke khaber dekhte rahe logon k aib o hunarPary jub apne kirdar par nazar to nigha me koi or bura na rahaThis line i sayed only for those who don,t no himselves and sayed other was wrong first who understand his self than sayed others r wrongI m ismaili my stranger. stranger wrote at 2012-10-11 09:14:59

ALAMA IQBAL_SAYEDNathe jub apne hall ke khaber dekhte rahe logon k aib o hunarPary jub apne kirdar par nazar to nigha me koi or bura na rahaThis line i sayed only for those who don,t no himselves and sayed other was wrong first who understand his self than sayed others r wrongI m ismaili my stranger. NAeem Ud Din wrote at 2012-11-18 14:43:09

Salam everybody! I wanna ask some questions from the Sunni friends that who has given you the right to say that whether somebody is Muslim or non Muslim???Don`t you know that calling a Kafir As kafir Is not allowed by Allah Almighty???Even an Ismaili who perform prayers for Allah whatever the timing maybe, maybe five or three, You are calling An Ismaili As non muslim. Damn! Who the Hell You Are???Do you have any Leader like my Imam Who claims to be the successor of Hazrat Ali(A.S)??? Any Muslim Leader else do you have like my Imam???NO NO Ain`t nobody!!!Look my friends, An Ismaili believes in oneness of Allah And The last Prophet Hazrat Mohammad And Quran Pak Too. Half Knowledge is very Dangerous. My Imam Works 16 Hours outta 24 to serve humanity, To serve Islam. And this fact is admited by the whole nations.My Imam Never Claimed To Be God(nauzibillah) by God!!! He Is just the way to reach Allah.My Imam emphasizes to perform prayers, To respect Ladies, To give half To A Girl and quarter to a boy.Simply You the guys have misconceptions about Ismailism. thats All... I am proud to be an Ismaili  Ismaili wrote at 2012-12-03 05:00:48

Apparently you need to do your research because an Ismaili is a Muslim.  Please do not give answers when you are obviously uneducated.  If you really love your husband, learn about his religion too and maybe you will see it is much more open than the close mindedness of some of the Sunni Muslims who are unaccepting and claim to know about what a Muslim is Nadir Nazar wrote at 2012-12-22 06:55:49

Assalam o alaikumsir with due respect i want to say that how can u say that ismailis are not muslim??What are the basics of being an muslim??do u consider yourself as a muslim after saying some one as non muslim??you are just muslim cox u born in a muslim home.in islam its not permitted even sayinf a kaafir non muslim so how can u catogarize a muslim as non muslim??I m a boy and ALLHAMDULILLAH i m a muslim and ismaili as well.People like you are here just to mis guide other people.i m so sorry to say that people are like existing in this word how can u guide any one else instead u need to get guidence from some oneAmit Abdulkarim Merchant wrote at 2013-01-29 20:47:07

Why dont we all think as we are muslim first than Shia or sunni... All allah talla wanted us to be was being a muslim a true muslim... We All belive in quran so please tell me where in the quran it is written that allah wanted us to become shia or sunni muslim. All allah talla wanted was us to become is true muslim who does good deeds in his din and also remain as good human in dunya... So i think Any 1 who Truly follows this 2 things in his life and has 100% faith in allah is a true muslim.1.Also we know that with out the permission of allah not even a leaf can move from its place and on other hand we say that ismailies who work on the path allah is not a muslim who on this planet has right to judge this, only allah can judge that we ismailies are muslim or not.2.Also having half knowledge about any thing can always create misunderstandings so it is better to have the whole Knowledge of ismailies. you can get to learn whole lot of things from this Site http://www.theismaili.org/ 3. Many People are there who say we see aga kahn as GOD, but no dear we know that he is just our imam. Imama Aga Khan is only Guardian of Ismaili Shia and He is not God(True preception of Aga Khan.4.I am so suprised that people have NOT done there research.a. Same Kalma(one ALLAH and MUHAMMAD is the mesenger of ALAHb. We fast during ramadan, and additional days during the yearc. Very well educated, as building intellect is fundamental in Islamd. Jamatkhanas are built and designed so that the pray hall faces the Kabae. Pork is HARAM, we are taught to eat Halal foodf. Our community pays more zakaat than the required amounts in ISLAM.g. We help each and everyone, throughout history and current day, no matter what the religion is of he/she who is being helped.The fiath of Ismailism teaches:Tolerance,Literacy,Pluralism,Generosity in Time, knowledge and Resources.Care of needy and equality in society.Meritocracy.What else the isamili do which is against the Islam.So i think by all this you do understand we 2 are muslims and we follow are din like a true muslim and inshalla till the last breath we take in our life we remain good on SIRATAL MUSTAKIM..Even I m in Love with Sunni Girl and Inshallah if we all are children of allah than certainly we are not doing any thing wrong by getting married. Karim Ladha wrote at 2013-03-08 19:52:32

I am shocked to read all the comments . Now I get an answer why we have so many. Problems within the umma 1.we judge ,,,it's not our place to judge only Allah has that authority2.we accuse..... That is haram3. We point fingers....that is haram4.we mislead...that is haram5.we kill in the name of Allah.....that is haramIn fact so much is done within the Muslim umma that is not what we shoul be doingOur imam teaches usToleranceHumilityTo leave by the ethics of QuranWe receite suras in our prayersYes we sing to the fact rejoice allahs creationWe do pay zakat..And we do all that will love and devotionI am saying 72 sects in Islam was brought on by this kind of thoughts and finger pointing we should respect each other and have tolerance to different beliefs around the world  our imam we are proud of. Him and we are proud of what he is doing for the ummah In regards to marrying an Ismaili boy my advice is don't as you have doubt in what he believes in and that will always create friction in your life in fact when you fall in love everything else takes aback seat if he is black or white different religion  or whatever I think you don't love him that muchThank you for all supporting ismailism ,people who have studied us please keep it up Lets all get together and pray for all Muslim brothers and sisters who are facing war and tribulation all over the worldYa ali madat Zul Hasham Suwani wrote at 2013-03-13 14:38:29

This forum has been there a long time a go and I hope that the girl has finally married the Ismaili boy which is the right choice.To lall the contributors and the people Who have answered the questions I would like to say everyone is right as what they perceive and what they have been taught.I think everyone agrees that in Quran Allah mentions that I leave behind my Holy book and my progeny and this progeny is none other the present living Imam of the Time The Aga khan.It is important to all concerned that they should read the book The Aga Khan which will give to all concerned the insight into the lives of the Imamat also the book to read is Islam the Religion of my fore father by Mowla Sultan Mohamed Shah Aga Khan.Half Knowledge is dangerous and by reading this books you will understand Ismailsm and the True meaning of the Imam subi ramat wrote at 2013-03-28 06:00:15

Ismalias are MAKING SHIRK by PRAYING TO THEIR IMAM & SAKING from him instaed of ALLAH.They donot pray salat, they pray BIDAH called DUA designed and invented by their IMAM,They Follow their IMAM and disobey to ALLAH & Prophet.CHECK IT IN THEIR JAMAT-KHAMAsNaeem uddin wrote at 2013-04-28 05:16:02

@ subi ramat, listen man firstly you r  a gadha a bufoon came to put a comment here. An ismaili till now have never judged a sunni whether he's muslim or not. the world curses you and considers you as the terrorists. But an Ismaili is respected wherever he goes, and treated well. My Girl is a sunni and i'll marry her, agar rishta nae hua to bhaga k shadi karunga hahaha Iqbal wrote at 2013-05-17 11:42:59

AOA!Listen u all who are sayn that ismailis are non muslims,its non of ua business to cal sm one as nonmuslim.Half knwledge is always dangerous,if u dnt knw each nd evri thing clearly then dnt cmnt wth half knowledge..Just tell me if u are a sunni whats ur cntribution to ur sect that u are sunni tday????? The answer is that nly nd nly u were born in a sunni house thats y u are sunni tday.(pehla socho phir tolou phir bolo).Befr cmnting on ismailis first thorougly study about the ismailism and then comment.We dont care who is callin us nonmuslim,God Almighty knws each nd evri thing very well..We are muslims          "LA ILAHA IL ALLAH MUHAMMAD U RASUL ALLAH" Farhad wrote at 2013-07-18 06:00:31

Dear all,Its misperception about ismalies they are not Muslims, this is the request you all please do deep study of Islam 1st then decide what the Islam and last prophet said. What the last prophet said …mai ilam ka sheher hon tu Ali us ka darwaza hai it means you all not accept it. After nabowet the imamat is start so the ismalies follow the imamat so how we can say that they are not Muslims.  According Islam muslims we can marry to al kitab. holy books are! the Tawrat , the Zabur, the injil and the Qur'an.There are 72 sects of Islam so why we pointed out this sect is non muslim and that sect is non muslim it’s not our job Allah knows that who is muslim and who is not.Waseem wrote at 2013-09-25 11:29:52

Ismilies are not Muslim.... They cleary reject Islamic Pillars....so any1 who rejects Islamic pillars he is not considered as Muslim...O My dear brothers and sister dont fell in  these people shia, bori, barelvi, sufi People....these all reject Quran and Authentic Hadeeth.....Just follow Quran and Sunnah tgat is enough fot us..."Ati Allaah wa aatiur Rasoola(Obey Allaah and his Messenger)"... Except these two if u follow any Agha khan or Ahmad raza u will be mis guided...May Allaah guide us all on straight path...aameen... Waseem wrote at 2013-09-25 11:29:54

Ismilies are not Muslim.... They cleary reject Islamic Pillars....so any1 who rejects Islamic pillars he is not considered as Muslim...O My dear brothers and sister dont fell in  these people shia, bori, barelvi, sufi People....these all reject Quran and Authentic Hadeeth.....Just follow Quran and Sunnah tgat is enough fot us..."Ati Allaah wa aatiur Rasoola(Obey Allaah and his Messenger)"... Except these two if u follow any Agha khan or Ahmad raza u will be mis guided...May Allaah guide us all on straight path...aameen... Muhammad wrote at 2014-07-28 03:12:00

The Ismaili's writing here have been informed of their wrong beliefs. So much has been written about their wrong beliefs from what I have read here and on Google. Sheiks, Mufti's and Molvis have denounced them as Kafir where ever I asked. Believing in Allah and the Prophet is not enough to be a Muslim as some here claim. They fooling no one except themselves.If it is true they do not fast in Ramadan, looking at Aga Khan is Haj for them, not praying salat five times day but doing something or making dua three times day in their Jamat Khana, etc - all this is is not Islam and they cannot fool others they are Muslims.My experience with Ismail's was on a cruise ship when a large group of about fifty Ismaili people were cruising. I saw at their private function woman and men dancing to Indian music and, some men drinking alcohol. This is not Islam.They will have no excuse on Day of Judgement as they have been informed of their wrong ways in threads like this and still do not want to convert to Islam. If they are Kafir then Jahannam can only be there abode. Same goes for the Shia's which is another topic.  MJ wrote at 2014-10-06 08:13:20

Assalamo Alaikum everyone.I was an ismaili girl and i am reverted to Islam because of unacceptable beliefs of ismailis towards their so called god Aga Khan. everyone will be asked for their deeds on the day of judgement so we should not get into this debate. May ALLAH Pak give hidayat to everyone Ameen.