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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Bramwel » Thu May 22, 2014 9:34 pm

http://www.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2009/04/14/les-talibans-autorises-a-rendre-la-justice-au-pakistan_1180297_3216.htmlThis is from a French newspaper, Le Monde.It is pretty awful from a human rights perspective, also because it leaves westernised Pakistani people, especially women, increasingly marginalised and under threat.According to 'Le Monde' three million people will now be subject to Sharia law.It would be nice if the Western Powers actually had some war aims to discuss with everyone.
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Machau » Fri May 23, 2014 3:26 am

Bad, of course. It only encourages them. The Quran lays out the model that all of these "radical"(obedient) Moslems are following: attack, fight, attack, fight, offer compromise. If compromise is accepted, spend time re-arming and preparing. Ten years later, attack, fight, attack, fight, offer compromise. Repeat as necessary. Only when the French fought them, total war, and stopped the Moslems at the Pyranees did they first lose, because the French were not going to compromise with them at all. It was push them back into the Pyranees(and throw them off the mountain, if possible) or nothing. Pakistan made this "deal" exactly so it could have it both ways: mollify the locals and appear to be doing something about the Taliban. Sheesh, I almost hope they do get a coup d'etat.   danielpauldavis 57 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Delmer » Fri May 23, 2014 8:19 am

For Pakistan, the government may not have had a choice since...they are not in control of the area. When a fundie is willing to kill you and your family because you disagree with them, they are hard to bargain with.   For society = BAD. Society always loses when we kow-tow to fundamentalism or organized ignorance, but I repeat myself! Sources: Redneck Fill-os-e-fher, read some, been some places skep 57 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Roger » Fri May 23, 2014 12:10 pm

spikejones replied to post #2: 4 This is always a strong possibility, especially among the elite who speak English as a second or third language, especially as it is used as a medium of education, especially in Catholic schools.I read somewhere that a lot of these Taliban characters went through schools with names like St Francis Xavier, and at one point their former teachers were used as middle men by the foreign offices of several nations, also as an attempt to change their minds. Catholic texts like 'The Cloud of Unknowing' can link up with Islamic Gnosticism and Mysticism.(The 'Cloud' is a 14th Century English text about focussing everything on God who is hidden behind ' a cloud of unknowing. As it says on certain medicines, don't do the spiritual exercises in this book if you are operating heavy machinery.) 57 months ago
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby colfre12 » Tue May 27, 2014 7:01 pm

the government may not have had a choice since...they are not in control of the area. When a fundie is willing to kill you and your family because you disagree with them, they are hard to bargain with.   For society = BAD. Society always loses when we kow-tow to fundamentalism or organized ignorance, but I repeat myself!
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Nykko » Sat May 31, 2014 2:47 pm

darwin? said: 2 I think the only folks who could say whether it is or is not a good idea are the folks who are going to be subject to that set of laws. I wonder if we are now going to see a migration within Pakistan, caused by the educated and/or westernized people voting with their feet. 57 months ago
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Farand » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:26 pm

This is always a strong possibility, especially among the elite who speak English as a second or third language, especially as it is used as a medium of education, especially in Catholic schools.I read somewhere that a lot of these Taliban characters went through schools with names like St Francis Xavier, and at one point their former teachers were used as middle men by the foreign offices of several nations, also as an attempt to change their minds. Catholic texts like 'The Cloud of Unknowing' can link up with Islamic Gnosticism and Mysticism.(The 'Cloud' is a 14th Century English text about focussing everything on God who is hidden behind ' a cloud of unknowing. As it says on certain medicines, don't do the spiritual exercises in this book if you are operating heavy machinery.)
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Andonis » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:27 am

It only encourages them. The Quran lays out the model that all of these "radical"(obedient) Moslems are following: attack, fight, attack, fight, offer compromise. If compromise is accepted, spend time re-arming and preparing. Ten years later, attack, fight, attack, fight, offer compromise. Repeat as necessary. Only when the French fought them, total war, and stopped the Moslems at the Pyranees did they first lose, because the French were not going to compromise with them at all. It was push them back into the Pyranees(and throw them off the mountain, if possible) or nothing. Pakistan made this "deal" exactly so it could have it both ways: mollify the locals and appear to be doing something about the Taliban. Sheesh, I almost hope they do get a coup d'etat.  
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The Taliban Have Been Given Permission To Set Up Sharia Law In North East Pakistan, In Exchange For A Cease Fire. Bad?

Postby Weardhyll » Sat Jun 14, 2014 4:57 am

I think the only folks who could say whether it is or is not a good idea are the folks who are going to be subject to that set of laws. I wonder if we are now going to see a migration within Pakistan, caused by the educated and/or westernized people voting with their feet.
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