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Was It Really Torture, Or Was It An Expedient Way To Get Information. Was It Legal? Is All The Fuss Political?

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Was It Really Torture, Or Was It An Expedient Way To Get Information. Was It Legal? Is All The Fuss Political?

Postby Carrol » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:19 am

I read a news report that claims the CIA queried the Justice department about harsh interrogation methods and the Justice department gave them the go ahead, saying it was legal. In fact, "None of the Justice Department lawyers who reviewed the interrogation question argued that the methods were clearly illegal."The legality of the acts was based on an interpretation of a 1994 antitorture law written with foreign regimes in mind. That law defined torture as treatment "specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering. Using that law as guidelines, the Justice Dept. concluded that the CIA's methods were not torture.If all of this is true, what is the liability of the CIA in this matter. Are Cheney and Bush accountable legally for what happened. Who will guard against the guardians of our Justice System?http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/07/us/politics/07lawyers.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
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Postby Ebenezeer » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:25 pm

Mattco said: 4 There is a very simple test for torture: Would you want to be treated that way? 55 months ago
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Postby Mikko » Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:28 am

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Postby Evan » Mon Feb 24, 2014 2:13 pm

There is a very simple test for torture: Would you want to be treated that way?
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Postby Ozi » Mon Feb 24, 2014 7:05 pm

TurboB said: 3 People being tortured will say anything to get it to stop. It is most certainly NOT an expedient way to get information.http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20090529/us_time/09171190149100;_ylt=AnXNt3cfAvzsuwFcH5ozRjeSFs0F;_ylu=X3oDMTJzazlkZm5rBGFzc2V0Ay90aW1lLzIwMDkwNTI5L3VzX3RpbWUvMDkxNzExOTAxNDkxMDAEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwM0BHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDaG93ZG95b3VtYWtlI don't know if it is/was legal. I do know that there is no excuse for what we did - it went way past defensible into out and out animalistic behavior.If speaking out against the raping of children mulitiple times is considered a "political fuss", I have great fear for this country. 55 months ago
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Postby Conlen » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:50 pm

The fact is, "water-boarding" would be difficult to prove as torture, while sleep-deprivation would be much easier to prove as torture with recent research. But the real issue is that the supposedly "Christian" G.W. Bush be tarred with a brush that will then be applied to all Christians who supposedly voted for him. The point of all this isn't a Texan twice elected President but a group of people who are in the way of that Brave New World, uh, eh, 'scuze me, New World Order.
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Postby West » Sat Mar 01, 2014 3:35 am

I suppose they could have asked the Supreme Court, but that would've been a hand-tipping. The fact is, "water-boarding" would be difficult to prove as torture, while sleep-deprivation would be much easier to prove as torture with recent research. But the real issue is that the supposedly "Christian" G.W. Bush be tarred with a brush that will then be applied to all Christians who supposedly voted for him. The point of all this isn't a Texan twice elected President but a group of people who are in the way of that Brave New World, uh, eh, 'scuze me, New World Order. danielpauldavis 55 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.
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Postby Addams » Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:14 pm

Geppetto said: 1 . 55 months ago
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Postby leonie36 » Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:03 pm

CatoTheCensor said: 2 Go read this. And then tell me you believe rape and child molestation to be 'legal' torture.http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/05/report_unrealeased_abu_ghraib.htmlPlease. Defend that. Because I can't. 55 months ago
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Postby Mawrth » Sat Mar 08, 2014 3:40 pm

Go read this. And then tell me you believe rape and child molestation to be 'legal' torture.http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/05/report_unrealeased_abu_ghraib.htmlPlease. Defend that. Because I can't.
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