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What could the United States and other countries have done before the war to stop the Holocaust?

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What could the United States and other countries have done before the war to stop the Holocaust?

Postby trucker » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:11 pm

(a) passed laws that made anti-Semitic acts illegal.
(b) relaxed their immigration policies.
(c) stopped the immigration of German and Austrian Jews.
(d) created the State of Israel.
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Postby siuaghan » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:12 pm

(b).
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Postby arvad » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:14 pm

None of them though a) if it's the only option you have

Antisemitism wasn't illegal and neither was racism but making the acts illegal would not have stopped Germany acting of it's own accord.

Relaxing immigration would have been pointless as most never had a passport anyway and would have caused influx of many non-Jews too.

Immigration was not as strictly controlled as it is today and many wealthy Jews who had the means to flee did so and claimed asylum.

There was no Balfour Agreement in effect so Israel was not possible.
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Postby hagaleah » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:20 pm

None of them though a) if it's the only option you have

Antisemitism wasn't illegal and neither was racism but making the acts illegal would not have stopped Germany acting of it's own accord.

Relaxing immigration would have been pointless as most never had a passport anyway and would have caused influx of many non-Jews too.

Immigration was not as strictly controlled as it is today and many wealthy Jews who had the means to flee did so and claimed asylum.

There was no Balfour Agreement in effect so Israel was not possible.
b would have helped, but unless they had let in all the Roma and 9 million Jews, there would still have been Jews left in Europe to kill (not to mention the homosexuals and other targeted groups).

Creating Israel would have helped if it meant Jews leaving Europe for it, but Israel would not have had enough influence to discourage Hitler.

The only way to stop the Holocaust was to throw the Nazis out of power. The best chance for that was to have a police action when Hitler moved to take the Rhineland.
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Postby beacher » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:24 pm

Little or nothing. The Holocaust didn't begin until December 1941, and it only started then because of the war situation that Germany found herself in. As they occupied more and more territory in the East, more and more Jews were coming into Nazi-controlled territories, but the fact that Germany was at war made expulsion/forced emigration of Jews - the Nazis' favoured tactic before the war - impractical. So they decided to kill them all.

If the US and other countries could have averted the Hitler war, the Holocaust would probably never have happened (though the fate of German Jews would still have been a nasty one). But it is hard to see how the US, in particular, could have averted the war. They really had nothing to do with the start of the war, or with it's conduct for the first two years. They didn't get directly involved until they were really left with no choice. (It was, in fact, Hitler who declared war on the US in December 1941, not the other way around.)
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Postby hawiovi » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:27 pm

what good would A have done? Passing laws making anti Semetism illegal would had done nothing. Making something illegal doesnt do anything unles one has the military power to inforce a nation to obey it. America didnt have that power before the war. Even if it did, it still had to invade europe and make war on germany and as we found out, that was very long and bloody.

IN short, nothing we could have done would had stoped the Holocaust. Well nothing short of maintaning the occupation of germany after world war one on into the 30s
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Postby marq » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:40 pm

In reality nothing. The United states at this time was only a shadow of what it now is. If you pass laws making anti-semintism illegal then how do you make sure people understand that? Besides the problem was in Germany so thatwould not have applied. They did stop alot of immigration from German and Austrian Jews and that certainly didn't help. And they had no power to create the state of isreal. I guess b would make sense because people would have had a place t take safe refuge at.
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Postby hob97 » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:46 pm

Nazi Germany kept the Holocause secret. Really, nobody knew about it until after the war was over and Allied troops began finding the horrible concentration camps where not only Jews but all sorts of other people were kept until they could be killed. The Allied troops were horrified at what they found, and so were the rest of us as the news came out. Yes, I remember reading in the newspapers -- we were all shocked and horrified. We knew the Nazis were awful, but no one knew how totally horrible they were until the camps were discovered after the war.
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Postby ern » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:56 pm

None of the Above

all the USA needed to do was to be Truly isolationist and Neutral

the USA put Hitler in power

Try this for Size

In 1933 the NAZI party was Broke and needed 500,000 german marks to contest the 1933 elections

and FDR Rockefeller Lindbergh Prescott Bush Warburg af the Chase Manhattan bank Used Jp Morgan and associates to set Up the Hitler Fund

some of the other contributors were American IG Farben Standard Oil Texaco

rockefeller foundation was Known to ave given Hitler and the NAZIS 32 Million dollars from 1924 to 1933

and it was US eugenics that trained Joseph mengler in the arts he Used at Auschwitz

let us Not have any of this US propaganda that your teacher is Plying you with

the USA caused WW2 GM built hitlers Tanks from 1933 ITT owned Fokker wolf and Built them in Germany from 1933 ITT and GM paid SKF of sweden to ensure sufficient ball bearings to Build Hitlers war machine from 1933 to 1945 Just to make Money

that is why Ford Built Factories in Germany and Russia all to build Trucks to make Money at the cost of American Lives

IBM and Dupont helped Hitler With the Holocaust

the Question i always ask why was Fords Factory near cologne still in operation In 1944 taken By the americans

Why was US owned IG Farben HQ in Frankfurt not bombed and was used as Shafe HQ by Eisenhower

and when the allies arrived in Germany ITT executives persuaded the US army to use trucks to save the the US assets of Fokker wolf from falling into Russian hands instead of Destroying them

and the Biggest Petrochemical plant at Buns In poland Owned By prescott Bush and Rockefeller was still in operation when the Russians captured it
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Postby veto » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:59 pm

They could have opened their borders! This means, b.
I read that a young Jewish girl was denied immigration to Britain because she was German, hence an "enemy alien". Can't remember her name, though.

You could read about the St. Louis, a transatlantic ship full of Jewish immigrants. They first went to Cuba and weren't allowed to land there, then they asked the U.S. and Canada for help. In the end, they were sent back to Europe - most of which had by that time been conquered by Nazi Germany. About half of the Jews who were on that ship didn't survive the war.
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