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Whats wrong with putting in Gun Control laws and banning guns.....?

  
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Whats wrong with putting in Gun Control laws and banning guns.....?

Postby orson19 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:03 pm

Cause we all know criminals follow the laws dont they?
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Postby wardell » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:06 pm

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/concealed-weapons-save-lives-article-1.1121161?localLinksEnabled=false
Concealed weapons save lives
"Friday’s horrible shooting in Colorado occurred in yet another place where guns are banned. And that’s consistent with a trend: With a single exception, every multiple-victim public shooting in the U.S. in which more than three people have been killed since at least 1950 has taken place where citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms."
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Postby crosbey » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:21 pm

uh... because it violates our Constitutional Right to bear arms!?!
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Postby leonie36 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:26 pm

You just gave one of the best arguments in favor of not passing stricter gun control laws. Conservatives are quick to point out as you just did that criminals do not follow laws meaning if guns were ill legal only criminals would have them. If all guns were ill legal leaving criminals the only one with guns everyone else would be helpless.
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I'm sure you did not intend to state the reason gun laws should not be more stringent.
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Postby melville » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:31 pm

Whats wrong with putting in Gun Control laws and banning guns.....?

Cause we all know James Holmes followed the law didn't he?
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Postby beacher » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:42 pm

Some people actually believe that someone willing to commit murder would think twice before breaking a gun control law. That's like saying a drunk driver who just mowed down a bunch of pedestrians wouldn't throw a candy bar wrapper out the car window because littering is against the law.
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Postby curney13 » Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:57 pm

Some people actually believe that someone willing to commit murder would think twice before breaking a gun control law. That's like saying a drunk driver who just mowed down a bunch of pedestrians wouldn't throw a candy bar wrapper out the car window because littering is against the law.
An Armed Society is a Safe Society.
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Postby vruyk » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:02 pm

OK. I'll be kind. You obviously do not understand the core concepts behind the United States. I do not want to be insulting, because this is very common. But it can get frustrating at times...

The USA was founded as 13 separate nations. Much like the European union is now. Each nation had their own laws, and military. But they knew that if they pooled their resources together that they could become stronger and more powerful. SO they laid out an agreement to bind the states together. IT was a Constitution that controlled how each nation would behave towards each other. At that time, if the nation did not like the union they could drop out of the agreement. Much like France, and Greece sometimes talks about with the European Union today.

But the people were very VERY afraid of what they created. They were very afraid that the powerful structure that they made could become very very powerful. And, they knew that a powerful nation is just a very terrible thing for the people inside the nation. (Look up DEMOCIDE on Google. More people have been killed by their own governments in the history of the world than by wars).

So to prevent the nation from becoming too powerful, they made a Federal Bill of Rights. Now, each state has their own Bill of Rights. But that wasn't good enough, the founders wanted a solid guarantee that Congress could not take away the basic freedoms and privileges that people have. To this end, they put the basics in the Bill of Rights.

Now, this might sound so strange to you. But it is clearly stated in the PREAMBLE to the Bill of Rights. The purpose of the Bill of Rights is to STOP the USA from becoming too powerful.

You can't do it effectively with words. You can't do this effectively without privacy. You cannot do this without property. SO they placed guarantees in the constitution. That is why every American can own a gun. That is why. Now, many of the rights are conveniently neglected for one good reason or another. Eventually, they will all disappear and the enslavement of the poor by the rich will be complete. But that does take time...

THE PREAMBLE TO THE 2nd AMENDMENT


The modern debate over the wording of the Second Amendment could be quickly resolved if the Amendment was read through the preamble to the Bill of Rights. A preamble to the Bill of Rights? What are you talking about? You mean the preamble to the Constitution don't you? No Senators Kennedy, Feinstein, Schumer, Lautenberg and your fellow gun-grabbing buddies, we mean the preamble to the Bill of Rights. Next to Hillary Clinton's billing records from the Rose Law Firm, this little known text might be the most closely guarded secret in American History.


Following the Federal Convention of 1787 and the subsequent ratification of the Constitution, the several States began submitting amendments to Congress for consideration. By September of 1789 Congress had reduced 210 separate amendments to 12. The amendments were inserted into a congressional resolution and submitted to the several States for consideration. Of these, numbers 2-12 were adopted and became the so-called Bill of Rights.



A little known fact about this resolution is that it contained a preamble declaring the purpose of the proposed amendments. Most modern editions of the Bill of Rights either do not contain the preamble or only include the last paragraph. The complete preamble, which is still part of the Bill of Rights, is printed below as it appeared in the 1789 resolution:





Congress of the United States,
begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.

THE Conventions of a number of the States, having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.

RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all, or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.t
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Postby golding » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:05 pm

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson
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Postby edin » Thu Jul 26, 2012 1:06 pm

Because Your Rhetoric Sounds An Awful Lot like The Sweet Convincing Things Hitler Said Before he Banned the Jews from Owning Guns & Then Marched them to Concentration camps & Gassed them to death...

"This year will go down in history. For the first time a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-ADOLF HITLER

"Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State." ~ Heinrich Himmler.

"Every good communist should know that political power grows out of the barrel of a gun." ~ Mao Tse Tung


1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1929: Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 40-60 million citizens, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated or starved to death.

1935: China established gun control. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Catholics and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1977, one million 'educated' people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated."

1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1966-1976: China still has gun control. Another 50-100 million civilians, unable to defend themselves, were killed in Mao Tse Tung's "Cultural Revolution".

1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

1990s: Rwanda established gun control. In a span of 100 days in April 1994, 800,000 people who were unable to defend themselves were massacred to death - most by machetes. How many dead, hacked-up bodies do you think were found holding a loaded gun? (answer is less than one)

1992: Los Angeles California, USA. For three days police stood by and watched, unable to stop the rioting, arson and destruction of whole neighborhoods. Yet many Korean stores were virtually untouched - protected by their well-armed storeowners who exercised their right to self-defense through their right to keep and bear arms and who did for themselves what the police were unwilling or unable to do.

Late 1990s: Great Britain established total gun control. Robberies, burglaries and assaults have skyrocketted making London's violent crime rate now higher than anywhere in America.
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"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." - Mahatma Gandhi
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