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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

  
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby tate8 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:46 pm

Is ourgovernment is working on legislation that will cost Americans even more of their hard earned dollars?

What about the American citizens that lost their living wage jobs in the giant sucking sound of corporate exidus to China and Mexico?

A nation of laws is contemplating amnesty for criminals of non Americans. Will amnesty be offered the Americans convicted of the crimes that the illegals have been excused from?

How about debt? Will the new strict bankruptcy laws be repealed?

Will people that have accrued medical debt, lost their homes and lively hood due to no insurance be given AMNESTY?

Will American tax payers that could not pay their taxes be given the same AMNESTY that employers of illegals have enjoyed?

Will those that lost their homes due to financial devastation of record unemployement be given their homes back?

When illegals are given Amnesty they will be as competitive as Americans for the same jobs.

Will employers cease hiring illegals
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby thom » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:53 pm

I give you credit for this question... so many people on here think that all Americans are rich with a silver spoon in their mouths - thanks for pointing out that we have our own problems, and our own that need help.
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby syvwkh » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:02 pm

Employers will not cease hiring illegals, Illegals are already given jobs instead of legals, no American will be forgiven any debt they have. When I was a teenager in the late 60's amnesty was a word given to the Americans who left America instead of being drafted in to the Viet Nam war. The politicians should use the proper language and say we are going to allow the criminals to get away with the crime and let them do this that and the other with no consequences. When w2 forms were passed out on my job, the Ameicans dreaded them and the illegals threw them in the garbage. Big brother and Big sister has finally over powered the USA and now they have so much control the American citizens voice is non existant. Our Gov. is like a two year old pitching a temper tamtrum, they are not capable of understanding right from wrong, and we the citizens are paying the embarassing and finacial price if their stupity. Today I will be writing IRS a check for $1203.00 and after that check is written I may have $100 or $200 hundred left, still owing hospital bills, rent, utilities, and so own, wish I could tell the IRS to stick it like my illegal co workers do own my job. I grow flowers for a living and the majority of workers are illegal, 16 to 3. Don't hold your breath thinking this is going to change. They are here to stay and will continue to take over America until America becomes theirs. Their well thought out plan will be accomplished. If scientist are correct about the year 2012 we want have to deal with this much longer anyway.
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby mate » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:03 pm

Alot of people in this country seem to equate illegal immigrants with criminals. I would guess that 99% of these people come to this country to work because wages and the quality of life are so much better than back in their home countries. Had they applied through the regular process, they probably wouldn't have received anything for over 10 years and for many people, their family's wellbeing outweighs the risk of dying while crossing a border. For the sake of many that have been in this country for many years, it's time to give them a break and allow them a chance to assimilate into society and become good tax-paying citizens.

The pros? The best thing is that we'll finally switch to a point system so that we can bring in the immigrants that will really help this country, instead of bringing 20 members of the same family, some of whom might not have any education or know how to speak English, just because one of their relatives happened to marry a US citizen and therefore became one.

Some more pros: Well look at the fact that you get 12 million people who are now officially required to pay taxes like everyone else, instead of keeping them in the shadows, not knowing who's paying and who's just mooching off the system. Secondly, you get some good enforcement that will have to be in place before they can start having a chance to get a green card. That sounds pretty good to me. If you think congress is dying to give these people amnesty, then knowing that it won't come before enforcement should give you some comfort that enforcement is at least being taken seriously this time. Employers will HAVE to check all the SS #s that their employees use and that's a good thing. Now that they're legal, you won't have to worry about them taking the jobs out from citizens because they get paid less because now they'll be demanding the same as everyone and whoever is best for the job will get it. Not to mention there won't be any exploitation on the part of the employers.

Most of these guys will be able to get legal driver's licenses with insurance and you can be happy to know that the person who hits you on the freeway is insured, won't you be?

Some of them, primarily the younger ones, will continue their education and probably go on to college to get good degrees that will help this country. You don't think that's a good thing.

You're not rewarding criminals here, you're rewarding desperate people, and there's really nothing wrong with that. We're a compassionate country, and we always claimed to be, so why should we be so coldhearted with these people?

Overall, this bill may not be perfect, but it's much better than what's on the books and I'm all for it. Good compromise between both sides.
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby shashank » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:11 pm

Army for Amnesty!

I think if Amnesty is on the table, and the politicos sure seem to want it, then every illegal should have to serve 2 years in the army, be trained to MP our borders, highways, bridges, etc. and pay taxes. At the end of 2 years, they can choose a career in the military, which is better than many of the menial jobs they now have, or they can return to civilian life and get a job, pay taxes and stop sending tax free money to South America.
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby siuaghan » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:12 pm

People do not seem to understand that we have a working class of labor. They work in factories, construction and other labor jobs that the illegals are now competing for. If you think illegals are staying in the produce picking market you are sadly mistaken. Who is watching the backs of our unskilled labor force?

The government is not going to help our citizens for any of those question you asked.

Employers will not cease hiring illegals unless we start enforcing our immigration laws, why should they? They are getting cheap labor WITHOUT concern for breaking the law.
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A call for Amnesty for American citizens?

Postby garbhach65 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 5:17 pm

I have the fix. Grant illegals amnesty in exchange for four years service in the military.

Yes we could clear a few Americans from prison the same way.
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