An important question for non-Catholic Christians on what you yourself believe?

by **chozai65** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:02 am

Non Catholic Christians do not believe that the Pope is holy... They do not believe that he is God's specially chosen messanger on Earth, who is able to change and alter laws that are in the Bible as he sees fit...

Basically, they do not believe in the Papal Bull, because if they did they WOULD be Catholics, and being anything else would be a path to eternal damnation in Stan's hellfire for all eternity...

A previous Pope used the papal bull to say priests can't get married, even though God never said that, but as you don't believe in the papal bull protestant minsters can...

A previous Pope said you can't get divorced, but as you don't believe in the papal bull followers of your religions can get divorced without eternal damnation...

Surely, if you don't believe in the Papal Bull, and choose not to follow those man-made changes to God's holy words and instructions, you should live your life by the laws given in the bible, and not ones changed by the current leader of the Catholic church at the time... Therefore you have to admit that ANY changes to God's laws and words made by ANY man (especially the leaders of the Roman Catholic church, as you aren't a Catholic) are not part of your religion and those sinful and prideful alteration that believe men know better than God himself, should ALL be ignored...

I'm just wondering because the Bible says you aren't allowed to eat pork, and the bible says you have to circumcised, and both the bible and Jesus himself said it is a sin to borrow money and pay interest on it, or rent land and property to make profit off it...

Therefore, by the laws of your own religion, you only have two options open to you concerning those points...

1) You either have to stop eating pork, stop using credit cards, and get circumcised, because it was a sin for a previous Pope to alter God's laws and tell you are allowed to do those things now using a get-out clause you don't believe exists...

or

2) Admit that the Pope IS holy, the Papal Bull IS real, and every body has to follow whatever rules he makes and become a Catholic or they're all going to hell...

Discuss...

And please, no diatribes about me going to hell for asking a question you don't know the answer to, or because you like eating Bacon and being nasty to me somehow means you are not ignoring God and knowingly ignoring his commands by still eating it, answer in one of two ways

a) You're right, I'm going to stop eating pork and get rid of this pesky foreskin..

or

b) I think it's okay to ignore GODS EXPLICIT COMMAND to not eat pork and keep my foreskin, and have realised that Catholocism and believing in the Papal Bull is the ONLY path to true salvation...

If it's not one of those answers, you are living your life in sin, and ignoring God's own rules by going along with a an even bigger sin JUST because you like having bacon on your double cheeseburger...

by **jarel** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:04 am

Answering a catholic bashers question is kind of ironic because show me a catholic that talks as much crap and judges people the way some of you Protestants do. Don't judge lest ye be judged

We know there is no truth in Protestantism or non trinitarianism because you've made an idol of holy scriptures and made everyone their own pope we don't need to compensate for our lack of genuine faith with stupid ad hom

by **syvwkh** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:06 am

"...the Bible says you aren't allowed to eat pork, and the bible says you have to circumcised, and both the bible and Jesus himself said it is a sin to borrow money and pay interest on it, or rent land and property to make profit off it..."

None of the preceding statement is true under the New Testament.

by **iden** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:08 am

As far as I know, Catholics don't think the Pope is holy. I don't. You Protestants are soooo obsessed with the Pope. It's not 1525 anymore!

Papal Bulls are merely letters. Since the Catholic Church compiled the bible in 382, why would we put anything in there that was against what we did/believed? Changes were made by men when they formed ANY Protestant denomination AND removed books from the bible over a thousand years after Jesus formed the Catholic Church. I agree that those changes that the men who created Protestant denominations WERE sinful and prideful--you're right! How those men could think that they know better than God himself, is amazing, yet you go right along with it.

by **khalid** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:09 am

Do you actually know what a Papal Bull is? You seem to go through this whole diatribe treating it as an object in which one believes or agrees. A Papal Bull ( not THE Bull, there have been hundreds over the centuries) is simply a proclamation by the reigning Pope on some matter. Theoretically a matter of faith, but often a political issue.

In any event, there are hundreds of Christian congregations, and each has their own particular interpretation of the Bible. None are any more or less accurate than any other.

by **taryn31** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:11 am

I follow the 10 commandments plain and simple.

by **winfrid12** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:23 am

You seem to be saying, "Either the Pope is holy, or you have to follow these certain rules." Those are not the only two possibilities. As Delusion Crusher pointed out, those particular rules applied under the OT system. Christians (or Bible-believing Christians, anyway) study the Bible, using accepted rules of interpretation, and their own heads, to find out what God expects of them. You can't just take random sentences from the Bible, without looking at the context, and try to make a whole point with that.

by **trucker** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:25 am

The Law covenant became in a sense “obsolete” when God announced by means of the prophet Jeremiah that there would be a new covenant. (Jer 31:31-34; Heb 8:13) In 33 C.E. the Law covenant was canceled on the basis of Christ’s death on the torture stake (Col 2:14), the new covenant replacing it.—Heb 7:12; 9:15; Ac 2:1-4.
The purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “Israel of God” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.

You must understand the Covenants before you judge others on their behavior.

by **oded** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:30 am

The Law covenant became in a sense “obsolete” when God announced by means of the prophet Jeremiah that there would be a new covenant. (Jer 31:31-34; Heb 8:13) In 33 C.E. the Law covenant was canceled on the basis of Christ’s death on the torture stake (Col 2:14), the new covenant replacing it.—Heb 7:12; 9:15; Ac 2:1-4.
The purpose of the new covenant requires that it continue in operation until all of the “Israel of God” are resurrected to immortality in the heavens.

You must understand the Covenants before you judge others on their behavior.

So you tell us all this, then u tell us what we need to answer because you are??? GOD??? I dont think so, do not quote what you believe to be true,(all because you interpreted the bible in YOUR understanding!)

by **wahchintonka48** » Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:50 am

or

Admit that the Catholic Church is the true Church. Adhere to her teachings, and understand that all non-Catholic Christians are saved by the sacrifice of Christ, yet lack the fullness of truth.

Not eating pork, circumcision, etc. are part of the Hebrew covenant with God. St. Paul said that baptism replaces circumcision. In the book of Peter, we read that God rescinded the dietary laws

The Church was given the authority of Christ. Whatever the pope binds on earth will be bound in heaven and what he looses on earth will be loosed in heaven.

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