Does The # Of Illegal Aliens In The United States Prevent The # Of Refugees Permitted Within The United States?

[vromme]

I know that several refugees uncover refuge in the United States from nations like Burma, Vietnam, Sudan, Eritrea, and so on., and I'd like to know when the number of illegal aliens that come by means of our boundaries influence the number of authorized refugees our government permits into our country.

[Kuhlbert]

[Lynd]

Not directly. But perhaps indirectly. There is no law or regulation that says "Oops, we had X increase in illegal aliens last year, therefore we have to decrease the number of legal refugees by Y." However, I do think that presence of large numbers of illegal aliens makes people vote for politicians who take a tougher stance on "immigration" in general, which makes it tougher to pass laws increasing the number of refugees and legal aliens that are allowed into the country. Sources: personal opinion basilisk 71 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please verify your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please verify your account to send a message.

[Ald]

In the U.S. government's rulebook, it all depends what the refugees are trying to escape.  For example, back in 1980s, Nicaraguans easily qualified for refugee status, because the Nicaraguan government was Communist, while people from El Salvador, where the internal conflict was way more fierce than in Nicaragua, did not, because the government of El Salvador, as bloodthirsty as it was, was not Communist...  So a lot of people from El Salvador ended up being in the U.S. illegally...

[tamas94]

I also work with the refugees and happen to know some "illegal" aliens(hope this site is not monitored by INS).  The diference between the two is that the refugees are granted legal entrance into the U.S, they get they Green Cards(er, mauve or lilac, actually), social security cards, have an opportunity to look for and obtain a job, receive public aid(Welfare), food coupons, rent subsidies, some health insurance, and are helped by people like you and I.  They are indeed in poor shape and not just financially and emotionally.  Most of them do not speak English and cannot therefore get jobs at the same educational level they had in the country of their origin, which creates depression and in some instances suicides or its opposite - criminal activity.    Illegal aliens on the other hand, which by definition are not here with either the knowledge or the permission of the powers-that-be, are actually in worse shape than the refugees.   They do not receive public aid, subsidies, health insurance, can't find a job easily and when they do it pays well below the minimum wage...     While the number of illegal aliens does not in any way influence the number of refugees allowed access to U.S., what do you think is the difference between, let's say, a pregnant woman whose husband was killed in Bosnia and who has arrived into U.S. as a refugee with the Green Card and SSN, and the one who arrived here without those papers?    I've seen both of those cases(legal and illegal status).  I, for one, cannot discriminate against a pregnant woman just because she had the courage to travel over an ocean to escape the horrors and attrocities of her country of birth to arrive at a foreign country whose(which?) language she does not speak and whose pieces of paper she does not have. Do you think the legal paper makes a difference, sister1?   Of course, I have to agree that the economy of a country would quickly go down a toilet if everybody was given the same rights regardless of their legal status on the one hand, but on the other hand, perhaps the economics of a particular country is not really of paramount importance when you are facing a human being in need.   End Poverty 2015: UN Millennium Campaign About the Campaign Countries Resources Contact Us Join the Campaign to End Poverty by 2015 Email: Country: Select oneUnited StatesAfghanistanAlbaniaAlgeriaAmerican SamoaAndorraAngolaAnguillaAntarcticaAntigua and BarbudaArgentinaArmeniaArubaAustraliaAustriaAzerbaijanBahamasBahrainBangladeshBarbadosBelarusBelgiumBelizeBeninBermudaBhutanBoliviaBosnia and HerzegovinaBotswanaBouvet IslandBrazilBritish Indian Ocean TerritoryBrunei DarussalamBulgariaBurkina FasoBurundiCambodiaCameroonCanadaCape VerdeCayman IslandsCentral African RepublicChadChileChinaChristmas IslandCocos(Keeling) IslandsColombiaComorosCongoCook IslandsCosta RicaCote D'IvoireCroatiaCubaCyprusCzech RepublicDenmarkDjiboutiDominicaDominican RepublicEast TimorEcuadorEgyptEl SalvadorEquatorial GuineaEritreaEstoniaEthiopiaFalkland Islands(Malvinas)Faroe IslandsFijiFinlandFranceFrance, MetropolitanFrench GuianaFrench PolynesiaFrench Southern TerritoriesGabonGambiaGeorgiaGermanyGhanaGibraltarGreeceGreenlandGrenadaGuadeloupeGuamGuatemalaGuineaGuinea-BissauGuyanaHaitiHeard and McDonald IslandsHoly See(Vatican City State)HondurasHong KongHungaryIcelandIndiaIndonesiaIran, Islamic Republic ofIraqIrelandIsraelItalyJamaicaJapanJordanKazakhstanKenyaKiribatiKorea, Dem. 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[fleming]

There is no law or regulation that says "Oops, we had X increase in illegal aliens last year, therefore we have to decrease the number of legal refugees by Y." However, I do think that presence of large numbers of illegal aliens makes people vote for politicians who take a tougher stance on "immigration" in general, which makes it tougher to pass laws increasing the number of refugees and legal aliens that are allowed into the country.

[Broin]

sister1 said: 1 basilisk, regarding your answer "Not directly. But perhaps indirectly.": That's what I thought too. I work as a volunteer resettling refugees in my community, and when these folks arrive, they really have nothing. If they've had anything, they had to sell it because they couldn't bring it with them. Most of these folks have lived in refugee camps for decades. While I really, truly empathize with the illegal aliens, I know that the refugees sometimes come here only with their lives............. 71 months ago