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How on Earth can the United States call itself a free country?

  
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How on Earth can the United States call itself a free country?

Postby jorel » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:49 pm

You may call it hypocrisy, but what I see is a land that offers so much hope to so many that they risk their lives, their families, their health, their futures, and their home to travel by makeshift rafts over painfully treacherous seas, by swollen feet through arid barren desert, and by starving aching body in shipping containers for the mere chance of maybe one day being able to call themselves Americans - and we open our arms to them.

Canada? You have great fishing and beautiful trees. Thank you.
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How on Earth can the United States call itself a free country?

Postby wardell » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:52 pm

It is hard for people who live in a society like Canada to understand that each state in the union has broad powers, and in many cases are semi autonomous from the federal government.

The last line in the next to last paragraph of your thesis discredits everything you wrote before that. Quoting you "and Americans continue to vote for more draconian laws." If the American people vote for this, is it not freedom?
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Postby varik » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:05 pm

You live in Canada but are complaining about the United States not being a "free" country? Some of what you state is possibly true, but most of what you state is at best extremely misleading. I tell you what - move to Iran, then come to the United States after living in Iran for a few years. Maybe then you might "get it".

Btw: some of what you say is pure nonsense - I, and millions of other Americans, do not hate freedom. We do hate stupidity.
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Postby hillocke » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:08 pm

Because they have the Constitution. Many of the abuses of freedom you mention violate their Constitution.

Speaking of hypocrisy, maybe you should look at what is happening here. There is a bill being introduced in the House of Commons tomorrow that will give police access to all of your email and internet activity without a warrant.

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_35432.aspx


Look up Bills C51 and C52. C51 is a police state bill disguised as a health bill.



Let's try not to throw stones when we live in a glass house.
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Postby seager » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:09 pm

I would believe that is because we are a Government of the People. We elect officials into office that propose laws and pass them.Therefore the laws in which we confide are also in most instance the ones we support. However lately the government has become out of hand due to Democratic Ideals.
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Postby dana » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:11 pm

Having had the benefit of living and traveling abroad in four continents, I would have to say the USA is "freer" than most. I once applied for work in Germany and the rules and prohibitions I faced were incredible!

Freedom in the USA means being able to pack up and move to another state if one wishes. Or to change jobs. Or to attend college (or not).

In the USA, anyone is free to succeed. Of course, this means that anyone is free to fail, also.

Living in society (ANY society) requires a "social contract." What some people refer to as absolute freedom is in reality anarchy. Perhaps the Libertarians have the closest view of "freedom" from a societal point of view: Let me do what I want with as little government interference, as long as I do not harm or intrude on others.

I've lived under Communism. I've lived in a Social Democracy. And the USA is a Representative Republic. Given the continued intrusion into citizens' lives by the government, I am very interested in following the Tenth Amendment movement. Read on below, if you're interested in learning how the US can take back some of its freedoms...
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Postby larry » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:12 pm

Nice try.
We will never convert to Canadia.
And you will never become an American.
Stay home.
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Postby adelphos » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:38 pm

Does it really matter? We're all here, we're all alive, and when people say 'free', it doesn't necessarily mean we have more rights than every other country. People are just being patriotic, loyal to their nation's society and laws. Sure, Canada's "free" but the word has become very loose.
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