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If i got a (Ca Legal Hi Point 9mm Carbine) would I then have to register it as an assault rifle?

  
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If i got a (Ca Legal Hi Point 9mm Carbine) would I then have to register it as an assault rifle?

Postby devon » Tue May 01, 2012 11:36 pm

Hi i am sort of new to shooting I got my first gun about 2 months about ,a .30-06 bolt action i love it but i would love a carbine and noticed a lot are not California legal.I am looking into getting something larger then a .22 as well. I am looking into getting a Carbine on a college budget. Been looking around and saw in a magazine and online the Hi point 9mm carbine looks like a fun gun to shoot. Great price also so i checked into it being California Legal and yes i know Screw California Laws but i am stuck here for quite some time. If i bought a California Legal Version of the Hi Point 9mm Carbine with a bullet lock would I have to register it as an Assault Rifle or is it good to go? Please this gun seems to be what wanted. Also if there is any other guns around $300 or so please introduce them to me .
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If i got a (Ca Legal Hi Point 9mm Carbine) would I then have to register it as an assault rifle?

Postby sebastiano53 » Tue May 01, 2012 11:44 pm

"Assault Rifle" is a term that is NOT a CA legal term. It is a widely recognized technical term for rifles that have 3 characteristics:
1. Selective Fire - Hi-Point 9mm Carbine fails this test as it is semi-auto only.
2. Fires an intermediate cartridge - Hi-Point 9mm Carbine fails this test as it fires a pistol cartridge.
3. Removable magazine - Hi-Point barely passes this test because, while the mags are removable, they only hold 10 rounds.

"Assault Weapon" is the legal and political term that you are thinking of that generally applies to any gun that the government wants you to be irrationally scared of. In CA you can no longer register assault weapons. New assault weapons cannot be owned by civilians, period. Is a Hi-Point an assault weapon in CA? In CA the definition of an assault weapons is:
12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Penal Code section 12276, “assault weapon” shall also mean the following:
Rifles
(1) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of
the following:
(A) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
(B) A thumbhole stock.
(C) A folding or telescoping stock.
(D) A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
(E) A flash suppressor.
(F) A forward pistol grip.
(2) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10
rounds.
(3) A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

So out of the factory, the answer is Yes, CA classifies it as an assault weapon, because of 1A above. If a bullet button is installed at the time of purchase, then it is not an assault weapon by CA definition and therefore does not need to be registered.

Here is one:
http://classic.gunauction.com/buy/10893891/rifles-for-sale/semi-auto-rifle/hi-point-carbine-9mm-995ts-ca.-legal-bullet-button
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If i got a (Ca Legal Hi Point 9mm Carbine) would I then have to register it as an assault rifle?

Postby ricard83 » Tue May 01, 2012 11:48 pm

If it is semi and fires a lower velocity round such as a 9 mil im pretty sure it would be under the rifles category.
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If i got a (Ca Legal Hi Point 9mm Carbine) would I then have to register it as an assault rifle?

Postby iker » Tue May 01, 2012 11:52 pm

If it is semi and fires a lower velocity round such as a 9 mil im pretty sure it would be under the rifles category.
No you do NOT register rifles in CA. A mossburg 500 can be had for under $300 and a good shotgun is worth its weight in gold !!!
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