Paulist Christians: Why do you believe Paul's doctrine?

by **baigh** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:13 pm

Your question is full of errors and misconceptions. Paul died as a maryr at Rome, he may well have met Christ in his lifetime (there is much speculation on this subject), and Paul strongly believed himself to be preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ - moreover, the early Church clearly agreed with him.

But what annoys me most is the attempt by some to paint Paul as a sexually-repressed reactionary, while Jesus was some spaced-out hippie. No. Actually read Jesus' words. Many of them are harsh and even violent. He rejects his own family, including his mother. He refers to Gentiles as dogs. He tells his disciples to arm themselves with swords. Much of Jesus' reported speech is bitter and harsh, and full of an urgent sense that the things of the world are passing away.

Paul, by contrast, often comes across as a rather gentle mystic. It is not Jesus but Paul who extols the virtue of love in a highly poetic passage in 1 Corinthians: "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal" (1 Cor 13). This is not Paul the legalistic extoller of righteousness. This is Paul the visionary, whose message was one of mystical union with the Christ he worshipped.

Paul was the first and greatest Christian theologian - he assembled the confused accounts of Jesus' life and ministry into a coherent theological system. But it is probably not the case - as many assume - that he personally came up with everything written in the Pauline Epistles. On the contrary, Paul seems to be reflecting beliefs that were already widespread within the Christian community within a decade or two of the crucifixion.

by **blaeey** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:25 pm

why do u surfer urselves like this the bible says test all spirits so test him ask god is he not your father ask the holy spirit to lead you and paul teachings are not away from that of christ only that you look towards the surface undastandin of the bible not the revelational undastandin so ill advise that u read all of pauls books again but this time ask the holy spirit to teach you and guide you

by **bardoul** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:27 pm

why do u surfer urselves like this the bible says test all spirits so test him ask god is he not your father ask the holy spirit to lead you and paul teachings are not away from that of christ only that you look towards the surface undastandin of the bible not the revelational undastandin so ill advise that u read all of pauls books again but this time ask the holy spirit to teach you and guide you

Paul persecuted the Church horribly UNTIL he met Jesus on the road that day. I don't know where you get your information but it is VERY flawed!!! Paul DID hear the voice of Jesus and DID have a radical change in his heart and soul and his life! Paul preached the Gospel everywhere he went and it was in complete agreement with the Gospel and teachings of Jesus!!! Paul WAS a martyr. You need to stop listening to the morons on the internet and read what is in the Bible, study the teachings of Jesus and the teaching of Paul from the Bible and you will see that Paul was RIGHT ON! I believe what the Bible says and NOT the junk on the internet, the Bible is my source and that is where you need to get your facts, instead of the false teachings you obviously believe!

by **regenweald** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:33 pm

I actually agree with you about paul :-) i just wanted to add to what you said that it dawned on me a while ago about when Yeshua mentioned render unto caesar the things of caesar's and unto God the things of God's...i really believe He was warning us about paul...and paul appealed unto caesar...

by **lifton** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:43 pm

Because it is the inspired Word of God.

by **camdin90** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:45 pm

Peter considered Paul's writings to be inspired of God:

2 Peter 3:15-16 "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, (16) as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures."

by **kendrix** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:49 pm

Peter considered Paul's writings to be inspired of God:

2 Peter 3:15-16 "And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, (16) as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures."

by **emmanuil54** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:50 pm

It is readily apparent that you have never read the Bible accounts nor any writings of Paul or the other disciples of Jesus. Had you done so, you would have seen complete agreement with the rest of the Bible books. Also the acceptance by all of the 1st century Christians, including those of the Governing Body in Jerusalem, of Paul as being chosen by Jesus himself.

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