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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby mace » Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:07 pm

Need to Illegal immigrants have all, some, or none of exactly the same Constitutional rights which are extended to legal immigrants, or folks? Precisely what rights do illegal immigrants have right now?Listed here is some historyConstitutional Rights of Worldwide StudentsConstitutional rights of Illegal Aliens from National Lawyers GuildNew York City Should let legal immigrants that aren't folks to voteJudges Improve Rights to Non-Citizens
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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby Rowell » Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:22 pm

Yes.... America has(till lately) always been known as the sanctuary of the world, and as soon as a human being was inside our borders, they have been protected, and knew they would be treated as a human getting.   This philosophy of simple decency was the basis of the BOR, and the purpose for many, a lot of, Numerous, individuals searching for asylum here in the U.S. over the years. We have always had a reputation(true or not) for  treating a person as a particular person, no matter where they are from, or how they got right here.     Of course, if they are known to be right here illegally, there are laws in location for the "disposition" of illegal immigrants. That?s for another discussion.....    The point is, all individuals must be treated decently, period. Sources: A romanticized, overly simplistic globe-view & outlook Duplicitous 75 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please confirm your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please confirm your account to send a message.
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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby Nerth » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:01 pm

I hope this is not noticed as imply-spirited and prejudiced-- --although I know it will be, by some individuals at least--but the only appropriate that an illegal alien ought to have is the correct to a protected passage home. The U.S. has shown that it has the capability to absorb more immigrants than we admit legally.  Consequently, I strongly believe that the number of legal immigrants permitted annually must be sharply raised.  But it is only even though legal immigration that the U.S. retains the potential to screen newcomers for ailments, potential potential to contribute economically, criminal history, and political intentions to harm our way of life. This is such a black-and-white issue to me.  I just never get why other Americans see illegal immigration in shades of gray.  The only gray area I see(and it is hugely gray) is what to do with the millions of illegal immigrants we have been stupid enough to permit into our country.  In spite of my much better judgment, I see some sort of earned amnesty as the only practical solution, as long as it is coupled with building a huge manned barrier amongst us and Mexico, and elevated vigilance at all "ports of entry"(seaports, airports, Canadian crossings).  Do I like that this smacks of paranoia?  Definitely not.  But I see no other way to encourage immigration without threatening the future of our nation. Pam_I_Am 75 months ago Please sign in to give a compliment. Please confirm your account to give a compliment. Please sign in to send a message. Please confirm your account to send a message.
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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby jolie » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:59 am

What are the rights of legal immigrants and why   macorn 40 months ago
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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby Adika » Thu Feb 06, 2014 5:49 am

--though I know it will be, by some people at least--but the only right that an illegal alien should have is the right to a safe passage home. The U.S. has shown that it has the ability to absorb more immigrants than we admit legally.  Therefore, I strongly believe that the number of legal immigrants permitted annually should be sharply raised.  But it is only though legal immigration that the U.S. retains the ability to screen newcomers for diseases, potential ability to contribute economically, criminal history, and political intentions to harm our way of life. This is such a black-and-white issue to me.  I just don't get why other Americans see illegal immigration in shades of gray.  The only gray area I see(and it's hugely gray) is what to do with the millions of illegal immigrants we have been stupid enough to allow into our country.  Despite my better judgment, I see some sort of earned amnesty as the only practical solution, as long as it is coupled with building a huge manned barrier between us and Mexico, and increased vigilance at all "ports of entry"(seaports, airports, Canadian crossings).  Do I like that this smacks of paranoia?  Absolutely not.  But I see no other way to encourage immigration without threatening the future of our nation.
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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby Broderik » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:24 pm

with permanent resident status and those here on student and tourist visas.  They have the most important rights of the First Amendment and the right to due process, so I'm not sure what you may be referring to.  They may not have certain PRIVILEGES like a driver's license but that is a matter of state law and I assume you are referring the Federal constitution.  If they are cheated by employers they can and have sued under federal labor laws and won.  If they are picked up by the INS they may stay in this country until their case is adjudicated and they have the right to an attorney.   The idea about non-citizen voting is another matter, most countries in the world have the same policy.  If you have the commitment to a country, you will become a citizen of that country if you want to have a say in that country;s governance.  In the United States we have a different issue with permanent residents.  It is becoming more difficult and time consuming to become a citizen and we are approaching a taxation without representation issue.  In my city we are beginning to look at giving permanent residents the right to vote in local issues.  They pay taxes, they are long term residents, and they are directly affected by local political issues.
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Should Constitutional Rights Be Extended To Illegal Immigrants?

Postby Kaelan » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:54 pm

Constitutional rights are about protecting individuals from abuse by the government. I don?t see any particular reason why illegal immigrants are any less susceptible to abuse. They are more so if anything.  At the very least they should be accorded basic due process of law when it comes to determining whether or not they are illegal in the first place and whether they have some legal right to stay.  I doubt if anybody thinks they should be immune to paying taxes on their earnings which means they should be protected by the same rules that protect legal resident tax payers. They should have access to the courts to resolve their disputes just like anybody else, if for no other reason than because it's better than having people outside the system making up their own rules. Personally, I think most of the hype about the "illegal immigration problem" is mostly just right wing politicians and media blowhards puffing smoke at the bigots, racists and xenophobes in the base. The country has more than enough real problems to worry about without beating up on some poor slob chopping lettuce or swabbing toilets for 3 cents a day. When I hear ?em start wailing but some rich, white engineer from Sweden overstaying his visa I might start taking ?em more seriously. The rights we enjoy are there because, as Americans, we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.(Can I turn a phrase or what?)  People don't have human rights because some politician handed them out like free beer on election day. They have them by virtue of being human. I don?t think we?re quite ready yet to replace the Lady Holding The Torch down there in the harbor with a statue of Rush Limbaugh holding a "Go Away" sign. ss:  JBENZ:  Two generations off the potato boat from County Cork and damn glad to be here.
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