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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby ScIymgeour » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:29 am

Wisconsin Senate Republicans voted to end collective bargaining rights for the state's public employees, while the Senate's Democrats remained out of state.  What's your view about this situation? AP
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Ceolbeorht » Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:13 pm

Yes.         Community employees who are paid out-of public funds(taxes) were never designed to become unionized.  Unions were established for labor who had been treated unfairly, not public employees who were receiving paid for a service.  There's a difference.          the thought of unionizing everybody needs to be re-vamped.  No public employee needs combined barganing.  Job does.        Academics aren't laborers.  Indeed, they labor, but they're a far cry from a car worker or perhaps a contractor who's(without a marriage) likely to work ungodly hours in ungodly circumstances with no break-in sight.       Unions Aren't required within the skilled world.  the experts just abuse the additional privileges unions provide.
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Amir » Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:10 am

Yes in the event of the public union collective-bargaining is just a no-lose situation for the union because they are settling with the politicians who is able to raise fees to generally meet the unions needs with people money. It's not cash from a revenue but from an open-end checkbook and then your labor union resources are accustomed to assist in elections of the politicians therefore providing them with an advantage for a better situation in discussions. Personal sector labor unions must consider aggressive businesses and revenue buildings while public sector really are a virtual monopoly with tax income that is also obtained from the workers along with the marriage dues.
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Ascott » Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:04 pm

I originate from an extended type of Partnership customers metal workers, auto workers, police force and academics, so yes I do. However I also genuinely believe that this shouldn't be considered a problem to people who pay and utilize these Public workers The Tax-Payer.  I do not see this being an assault on unions I see their opposition to create concessions being an assault on the Tax-Payer ....their company.    Most People Are likely to need certainly to make concessions and which includes public workers. For instance why should educators(and I've three in my own family) have fully-funded insurance programs once the private-sector employee plays a role in their insurance premium , retirement account some with no employee complement , have reduction retirement funds, pensions, holiday time, sick days and have also taken a pay cut.    The recently elected Governor of WI was elected on a system to balance the finances and now that he's attempting to make good on a promise( which can be uncommon in government today) some individuals are now saying oh I did not mean ME, effectively it generally does not work that way. In our very own houses are there one or two family members that are exempt from making concessions within the family budget? I'd assume not.  I'm by no means marketing handling the budget only to the backs of these within the training area or every other public employee nonetheless they also shouldn't be exempt in the procedure.  In a recently available study the people of WI desire and need tax relief.  Without credits how is this possible, who's likely to account the public employee deals?  The American tax payer who's in economic crisis themselves?  I furthermore by no means are excusing the federal government authorities that have made bad choices and decisions they've had a submit this economic crisis and need certainly to make concessions too . Both sides of the department my buddies are accountable for the monetary crisis in addition to the crisis of the American Employee.  Both sides are guilty of promoting, assisting and voting to get rid of an incredible number of jobs from the US.  I assume all to create concessions right along side me including government representatives, union members and non union members equally.  in my own view the procedure to balance costs, keep taxes down and put America back once again to work may only start and succeed when ALL start building concessions the same as in most home finances  .  When The only method to obtain Credits and assist the tax-payer would be to eliminate the marriage then so be it.  
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Tobin » Sat Mar 29, 2014 3:30 pm

All-state senators are chosen to represent their constituents.   a few of the senators in Wisconsin have voluntarily left. For this act to avoid those remaining to complete the job that they certainly were elected to complete seems ridiculous at best. Easily do not desire to be elected leader of a business, you are able to guess that I dam well is a the assembly.   And may I explain that the problem is problematic? Iowa didn't bar the best to bargain collectively. Their state banned particular actions which were entitled to collective-bargaining. Unions weren't barred and they're still in the positioning of negotiating for wages. Somehow, I actually do not begin to see the teachers going on strike for your to work Saturdays. Unions did very much that's very great. Although not all unions are all great all the full time. I believe that Abraham Lincoln said that. And whose fault was it that unions has been around since simply because they were sorely-needed. Administration. That is who.   the way in which that I view this case is that a few of the elected officers in Wisconsin want to be fiscally accountable. I understand that this concept is becoming associated with being unAmerican, but I'm sticking to this one. What I'm saying, is when I or you stop spending on our automobile, wouldn't the repo guy appear in the doorway? I'm kept fiscally responsibile. Just how many foreclosures have there been this past year? Our condition must certanly be kept towards the same requirements when I. Our authorities must certanly be kept towards the same requirements as myself and my condition.   Jay
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Cameron » Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:23 pm

Unions are not going everywhere. Republicans won the fight but may lose the struggle. A Person With a tiny little bit of sense can easily see this is simply what the Leader was sitting back awaiting. Barak needs to be licking his chops with considered winning again in 2012. He is able to plan with this alone and win. They've offered him so much ammunition to get its unreal. Republicans do not have any genuine resistance to operate against Obama within an election and now this, you've have bent the most popular man over without vaseline. Landslide in 2012 folks.
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Aesctun » Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:41 am

I love how a Democrats are state the Republicans aren't being reasonable and not providing them with an opportunity to speak.  It's called the Senate floor. It's named the assembly.  They choose not to be there to talk and it's since the Republicans aren't being fair.
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Montaigu » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:48 pm

Yes Unions are history .Thanks to the14 run-a-way democrate chickens.   nullWatch the latest video at video.foxbusiness.com
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Should Wisconsin End Collective Bargaining For Public Workers?

Postby Brinly » Sat Apr 26, 2014 1:24 am

When the governor suceeds in closing unions along with other claims follow, providers for that weak and aged and who knows just how many illegals could quit. The very first 2 will be a misfortune the Next a benefit. However the nation could be in worse condition than it's today. the unions would be the back-bone of our work force. Drop the unions and all-america could ostensibly be considered a servant country. Without any say in something about their careers, insufficient medical inches. Holidays- and increases among different essential. my grandma was a union delegate for that teamsters and needed to go to the longshoremen due to employers allowing scabs function many a period. It was within the late 40s-early50s. when there is a hit and scabs attempted to cross the picket line it was not really fairly. Therefore when the marriage brotherhood in iowa is just a powerful marriage they are able to essentially turn off their state by going on hit
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