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Since the majority of regulations on business relate to worker safety, and studies have shown conclusively and?

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Since the majority of regulations on business relate to worker safety, and studies have shown conclusively and?

Postby burt » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:20 am

Not accurate, your account of studies are wrong, and the word safety in government hands is the most dangerous thing there is. Safety = Slavery in government speak.

Now there is nothing wrong with safety, but you put regulatory control in any government agencies hands and they abuse it.

The whole "stupid con's don't know" thing is idiotic. Most big Corps are CEO'ed by Democrats.

The piles of redundant regs that are contradictory and vague are a real problem.

Just one of many many examples:
Right now 100s of billions $ is wasted because of a Clinton dirty trick Bush didn't have the guts to overturn because he knew the Media would say he wanted Arsenic in the Water. The 5 ppb arsenic levels were fine, Clinton moved it to 1 ppb without evidence anything was wrong with 5 ppb. Towns & cities that use ground water have had to redo their water systems and put a huge burden on the citizens of those places.

What about endangered species regs? Wind Mills are killing endangered Eagles and other raptures at a very high rate. If an oil rig killed one they had huge fines and re-evaluations of their operation. Windmill's kill 85 to 1, but no one is bothering them, it's selective and damaging to the economy, not fair, not right, shows how the environmental stuff is a mere pretext to these Fed Progressive dishonest fools.

Most business doesn't want it's workers hurt, it's not in most people, and it's bad for business even if they didn't care. Most small businessmen are close with their employees and grateful for what they do ... and almost all small business owners and CEO's are Republicans.
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Since the majority of regulations on business relate to worker safety, and studies have shown conclusively and?

Postby francisco » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:30 am

Not accurate, your account of studies are wrong, and the word safety in government hands is the most dangerous thing there is. Safety = Slavery in government speak.

Now there is nothing wrong with safety, but you put regulatory control in any government agencies hands and they abuse it.

The whole "stupid con's don't know" thing is idiotic. Most big Corps are CEO'ed by Democrats.

The piles of redundant regs that are contradictory and vague are a real problem.

Just one of many many examples:
Right now 100s of billions $ is wasted because of a Clinton dirty trick Bush didn't have the guts to overturn because he knew the Media would say he wanted Arsenic in the Water. The 5 ppb arsenic levels were fine, Clinton moved it to 1 ppb without evidence anything was wrong with 5 ppb. Towns & cities that use ground water have had to redo their water systems and put a huge burden on the citizens of those places.

What about endangered species regs? Wind Mills are killing endangered Eagles and other raptures at a very high rate. If an oil rig killed one they had huge fines and re-evaluations of their operation. Windmill's kill 85 to 1, but no one is bothering them, it's selective and damaging to the economy, not fair, not right, shows how the environmental stuff is a mere pretext to these Fed Progressive dishonest fools.

Most business doesn't want it's workers hurt, it's not in most people, and it's bad for business even if they didn't care. Most small businessmen are close with their employees and grateful for what they do ... and almost all small business owners and CEO's are Republicans.
I saw an interview once with the head of OSHA.

He claimed, rightfully I might add that since OSHA had been created, workplace accidents decreased. A chart was even displayed showing a nice downward trend.

Then the interviewer brought out his own chart. It showed the record of workplace accidents before OSHA. It too had almost exactly the same downward trend.

Did OSHA make the workplace safer? Or did it just get out in front of the parade that was already en route, and claim they lead the parade?

I've linked to a clip, it's not what I talked about above, but it does reference what I'm talking about. It starts at about 4:50 into the clip, but the whole clip is great.
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Since the majority of regulations on business relate to worker safety, and studies have shown conclusively and?

Postby banys » Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:39 am

One example. Years ago this meat packing plant was required by the FDA to clean all floors twice a day in the main processing area. OSHA safety regulations required people to not work in an area being cleaned.

- Not cleaning the floor, a fine of several million dollars
- Shutting down the area while cleaning, cost the company several hundred thousand dollars per shift
- OSHA fine for people working in a area being cleaned, couple of thousand dollars

So, the company cleaned the floor, while the employees kept on working, and just paid the fine, everyday. So the OSHA regulation did nothing to improve safety, obviously, because people were still working without incident.

But the company just added the cost of the fine on to their product, which gets paid by consumers when they buy the product.

Repeal of regulations isn't a goal. Common sense is. And this isn't a left or right issue to me, both parties are lacking any common sense when they get to the federal level. That's why many of these issues are best handled at state level.

Have a great day
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