Do you think Steve Jobs was another victim of the US medical industry?

[ayize]

How can a billionaire, someone who could afford the best treatment man could offer die of cancer. He literally gave himself to the hands of the U.S doctors (AKA murderers) who fail on thousands of patients each year. The typical treatment for cancer in the US is cut, burn, and poison. (surgery, laser treatment, chemotherapy). After they have destroyed the patient's immune system and leeched out as much money as they can from their insurance, they put them aside and tell them they have 1 year to live. Mankind has gone to the moon, watched planets explode light years away, but they haven't found the cure for cancer. Or have they? The U.S. medical industry and the FDA spend millions to prevent certain medications that actually treat cancer from getting a patent or entering the market. They condemn herbal medicine and alternative treatments by claiming that they lack research. This country is based on treating the symptoms instead of prevention of diseases. The American diet = cancer recipe. Nevertheless, doctors kill thousands of people each year in hospitals from negligence, drugs, or mistakes in surgery. I've read in some articles that the average life expectancy for a doctor is around 60, most of them are alcoholics or drug abusers. A cancer patient has a better chance for survival by taking herbs, vitamins, and minerals.

[fiacre68]

You are so right, but in Jobs case, he is the one that refused early western treatment. In USA, probably they will never find a cure for cancer as it is too much of a money maker for drug companies, doctors, hospital etc. Many countries around the world have cures for many types of cancers where people come first and not money.

[egann]

"A cancer patient has a better chance for survival by taking herbs, vitamins, and minerals."

Well he tried that. So why did he die?

His biography makes it clear he actually tried that "natural" nonsense for 9 months. He only went with real medicine when it became obvious that wasn't working.

[chepito]

##How can a billionaire, someone who could afford the best treatment man could offer die of cancer.###
Because we are programmed to grow old, our systems to fail and sooner or later to die.
Being a Billionaire does not make anyone immortal.
That is all.

[calin]

No.

Mr E, should he have seen a hio method chiropractor?

[curadhan74]

Steve Jobs refused regular medicine when he first found out about his cancer. By the time he finally went to doctors and accepted regular cancer treatment, it was too late because he had waited too long. He first tried the "herbs, vitamins and minerals" you mention, and that is one of the reasons he died. He did not get the PROPER medical care he could have. He himself said that he regretted that he had waited so long to get regular cancer treatment. Cancer is a terrible disease, and anyone who tries to treat themselves with herbs, vitamins and minerals alone is only taking away whatever chances they have to beat it. If you take these things in addition to cancer medicines, it probably won't hurt and might help. But you need to ask a doctor first in case what you decide to take negates the effectiveness of the cancer drugs. Cancer is not something you can afford to play around with!!

[toryn34]

You can always tell someone who knows nothing about cancer - they talk about 'the cure for cancer'.

And you can always tell an American who knows nothing about cancer - they believe that a conspiracy exists in their country to hide 'the' cure for cancer, while those of us in the rest of the world are being treated with herbs, water etc, and recovering from cancer within days. The fact that in many countries we pay nothing for our medical treatment, with cancer treatments costing our government untold billions, and yet no cheap miracle cure has emerged and we receive the same cancer treatments as in the US - well, that seems too much for their ethnocentric little minds to grasp

Cancer is hundreds of diseases, not just one. Different cancers are caused by different things, so no one strategy can prevent them all, and different cancers respond to different treatments so no one treatment can cure them all. There has not been and will never be a Eureka! moment when a single substance or procedure is that will cure all types of cancer is discovered.

Another way to tell someone who knows zip about cancer is that they have no idea that most cases of cancer (in the west anyway) are cured. For example, 70% of children with cancer are cured of it - yes, in the US too. Who wouldn't rather it was 100% - but a 70% cure rate doesn't exactly suggest a conspiracy to hide cures, does it?

So - now that we've established your lack of any knowledge of cancer: Jobs shunned conventional treatment for alternatives for some time. By the time he sought proven treatments his cancer was advanced. We have to consider the possibility that the delay in receiving real treatment whle he messed about with alternative, unproven treatments led to his death.

When I was diagnosed with cancer, I was determined to avoid harsh treatments, and sure there must be a more 'natural' way. I researched day and night - nothing prompts frantic research like a diagnosis of advanced cancer - and came to the painful conclusion that 'alternative medicine' has never been effective in treating a single case of cancer - anywhere, ever.

Almost 8 years after diagnosis of stage 3 grade 3 cancer, and over 7 years after completing my treatment (surgery, chemotherapy, radiotherapy), I am fit and well with no sign of cancer.

So that's my story; can you now tell us about all the people you know personally who have been cured of cancer with herbs, vitamins and minerals? What's that - none? Not a one? Just something you read on the internet? Thought so.

[collyer]

You can always tell someone who knows nothing about cancer - they talk about 'the cure for cancer'.

And you can always tell an American who knows nothing about cancer - they believe that a conspiracy exists in their country to hide 'the' cure for cancer, while those of us in the rest of the world are being treated with herbs, water etc, and recovering from cancer within days. The fact that in many countries we pay nothing for our medical treatment, with cancer treatments costing our government untold billions, and yet no cheap miracle cure has emerged and we receive the same cancer treatments as in the US - well, that seems too much for their ethnocentric little minds to grasp

Cancer is hundreds of diseases, not just one. Different cancers are caused by different things, so no one strategy can prevent them all, and different cancers respond to different treatments so no one treatment can cure them all. There has not been and will never be a Eureka! moment when a single substance or procedure is that will cure all types of cancer is discovered.

Another way to tell someone who knows zip about cancer is that they have no idea that most cases of cancer (in the west anyway) are cured. For example, 70% of children with cancer are cured of it - yes, in the US too. Who wouldn't rather it was 100% - but a 70% cure rate doesn't exactly suggest a conspiracy to hide cures, does it?

So - now that we've established your lack of any knowledge of cancer: Jobs shunned conventional treatment for alternatives for some time. By the time he sought proven treatments his cancer was advanced. We have to consider the possibility that the delay in receiving real treatment whle he messed about with alternative, unproven treatments led to his death.

When I was diagnosed with cancer, I was determined to avoid harsh treatments, and sure there must be a more 'natural' way. I researched day and night - nothing prompts frantic research like a diagnosis of advanced cancer - and came to the painful conclusion that 'alternative medicine' has never been effective in treating a single case of cancer - anywhere, ever.

Almost 8 years after diagnosis of stage 3 grade 3 cancer, and over 7 years after completing my treatment (surgery, chemotherapy, radiotherapy), I am fit and well with no sign of cancer.

So that's my story; can you now tell us about all the people you know personally who have been cured of cancer with herbs, vitamins and minerals? What's that - none? Not a one? Just something you read on the internet? Thought so.

No - Steve Jobs tried alternative treatment first, but his cancer just kept on growing. He delayed surgery for 9 months. We can't be sure, that this delay caused his recurrence, but it can not be ruled out either.

To know for sure if opting for alternative therapy instead of conventional treatment is harmful or beneficial to cancer patients we need to do systematic follow ups. Such studies have been done with breast cancer. Those studies show that the risk of progression/death significantly increases - most notably in those who refuse surgery, but also in those who refuse additional radio-chemotherapy.

You can read the summaries of those studies here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16978951
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21225354

[janyd]

You can always tell someone who knows nothing about cancer - they talk about 'the cure for cancer'.

And you can always tell an American who knows nothing about cancer - they believe that a conspiracy exists in their country to hide 'the' cure for cancer, while those of us in the rest of the world are being treated with herbs, water etc, and recovering from cancer within days. The fact that in many countries we pay nothing for our medical treatment, with cancer treatments costing our government untold billions, and yet no cheap miracle cure has emerged and we receive the same cancer treatments as in the US - well, that seems too much for their ethnocentric little minds to grasp

Cancer is hundreds of diseases, not just one. Different cancers are caused by different things, so no one strategy can prevent them all, and different cancers respond to different treatments so no one treatment can cure them all. There has not been and will never be a Eureka! moment when a single substance or procedure is that will cure all types of cancer is discovered.

Another way to tell someone who knows zip about cancer is that they have no idea that most cases of cancer (in the west anyway) are cured. For example, 70% of children with cancer are cured of it - yes, in the US too. Who wouldn't rather it was 100% - but a 70% cure rate doesn't exactly suggest a conspiracy to hide cures, does it?

So - now that we've established your lack of any knowledge of cancer: Jobs shunned conventional treatment for alternatives for some time. By the time he sought proven treatments his cancer was advanced. We have to consider the possibility that the delay in receiving real treatment whle he messed about with alternative, unproven treatments led to his death.

When I was diagnosed with cancer, I was determined to avoid harsh treatments, and sure there must be a more 'natural' way. I researched day and night - nothing prompts frantic research like a diagnosis of advanced cancer - and came to the painful conclusion that 'alternative medicine' has never been effective in treating a single case of cancer - anywhere, ever.

Almost 8 years after diagnosis of stage 3 grade 3 cancer, and over 7 years after completing my treatment (surgery, chemotherapy, radiotherapy), I am fit and well with no sign of cancer.

So that's my story; can you now tell us about all the people you know personally who have been cured of cancer with herbs, vitamins and minerals? What's that - none? Not a one? Just something you read on the internet? Thought so.

No - Steve Jobs tried alternative treatment first, but his cancer just kept on growing. He delayed surgery for 9 months. We can't be sure, that this delay caused his recurrence, but it can not be ruled out either.

To know for sure if opting for alternative therapy instead of conventional treatment is harmful or beneficial to cancer patients we need to do systematic follow ups. Such studies have been done with breast cancer. Those studies show that the risk of progression/death significantly increases - most notably in those who refuse surgery, but also in those who refuse additional radio-chemotherapy.

You can read the summaries of those studies here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16978951
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21225354

probably. most people ignore their common sense when it comes to health matters, and many pay a big price, in every sense, for it. they have developed a misplaced faith in man and technology. medical propaganda has convinced them that if anyone has the answer to disease, they do, though the proof is yet to be seen. the truth is, we are still just beginning to understand how the body works, but there are those who have progressed far past the mechanistic, crude and ignorant medical approach to sickness and understand that cooperation, not conflict with the body, is the key to restoring health. ( in addition to other things, of course nate. i thought you'd know the answer to that by now. keep trying, someday you may learn.)