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Postby jung-hwa75 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:42 am

I live at college in an apartment complex that is owned by the school but is off of the main campus. Our lease states that no guns are allowed in the apartments. Since I am living there, it would make it impossible for me to have my gun with me during the school season.

Is it legal for me to leave my gun in my car, even though it is parked on the premises. Is it legal to leave your gun in your car directly on school property?

It would be in Washington County, PA. And yes, I have a CC permit.
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Concealed Carry Law - PA?

Postby jorian23 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:49 am

I am not a lawyer, but I have read the law as extensively as possible in my state with regards to carrying my firearm. I have come across this question in my research and the answer was something like this:

It is illegal to even transport a firearm within 1000 feet of a school unless you have a carry permit. This is a federal law, and it is not likely to be enforced, because, according to the lawyer that wrote the response, a fed would have to make the arrest. I didn't read the entire post, but you need a carry permit in order to get within 1000 feet of the school.

The next part of the answer was that the school board makes the decision on allowing guns to be kept in the parking lot of the school property. The answer was very specific in saying that it can not be the principle, but the district that makes the decision. The alternative is to park off of school property.

Here in Florida, you are allowed to keep the gun in the car, even without a license to carry, so that part is up to your local or state laws.

Probably the first thing to do is to ask the principle about it. Just tell him/her you're thinking about going target shooting at the range up the road from the school and you just want to know if there are any restrictions on keeping the gun in your car from the school board point of view. Just make it sound like a one time thing so you don't have to worry about getting on his/her bad side and then having the police called to check your car at any point latter down the road.
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Postby slaine » Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:57 am

You would have to read your lease. If it states that guns are not permitted on the premises, then you wouldn't be permitted to leave it in the car if you are trying to completely abide by those terms.

According to PA law, if you have your LTCF (License to Carry Firearms), you are permitted to have a firearm in your car. No law states that it has to be removed, so you're legally covered if you want to leave it there.

Also according to PA law, guns are not permitted to be on the grounds of any public K-12 school - colleges / universities are not mentioned, but they can set their own rules.

By the way, I had a lease like this once and I ignored that part of it - I brought my firearm in the apartment with me. They won't find out about it unless you shoot it or leave it out in the open while they are doing an inspection. If you ever actually need to shoot it, the leasing problem would be a welcome issue.
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Postby geol19 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 8:02 am

The issue is PROPERTY.
You agreed to a lease whereby you will not bring guns into the residence.
You need to find-out what the OWNERS have to say about the place you're parking. Your car is on that space by their consent - which they are free to make subject to whatever rules please them.
If it's a State School, this amounts to the STATE forbidding you carry and I'd challenge that in Court (or not - depends on your available time, priorities etc)
If it's not a State school, it's a business. Businesses are private property and they have the right to allow or disallow any behavior they please. If a business has a policy against carrying firearms in their establishment they can ask you to leave, at which time you are obliged to do so. Failure to do so can result in trespass charges being filed.
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